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Benjamin Marsh
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I am looking to purchase a "light" war game for me and my 14 year old son to play, that my 9 year old son can start to learn as well. I have decided on one of these 2: Heroes of Normandie or Memoir 44. Any suggestions on which one as the price is about the same, and they both have expandability. Thanks, Ben
 
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Haven't played Heroes, but it looks more complex. There seems to be a lot more variety in troop abilities without it becoming as complex as most wargames. These are printed on the pieces which means you can avoid checking the rules.

You can play Memoir 44 online on the Days of Wonder website if you want to try it. It does have an easier variant too which they suggest for teaching young children. Maybe the miniatures might appeal to your kids more than tiles too.

I find Memoir frustrating though in that you can only use certain troops based on which command cards you get e.g. one turn you may only be able to use troops on the left side of the board. It is a good game and there is a lot of variety of scenarios, but I think it can feel like you don't have too much control.

I'd suggest watching a couple of videos to see which you think would appeal most.
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I also own Memoir and haven't played Heroes (but I really want to). Watch some reviews, maybe watch it with your son and see what he thinks. Memoir isn't too difficult.
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For the 9 year old probably Memoir. For you and the 14 year old definitely Heroes.
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One difference between the game is their scale. Heroes is about squads, while Memoir is a larger scale (units can be battalions or companies, for example). You might see which scale appeals to your kids as well. If they want gritty "take the house/crossroads" type games, Heroes might be the better choice. If they want to play all of Omaha Beach, you want Memoir.
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I have both. I still have not played Heroes but I play Memoir quite a bit and have found it really easy to learn and teach. I think your kids will enjoy the miniatures as well.
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Heroes can be a lot of fun. It feels like basic Squad Leader with war-movie overtones. But Memoir' is easier to learn and set up. I like them both but personally lean towards Memoir.
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I have both but have yet to play HoN. However, I play Memoir quite a bit with my 8 year old. Initially, I was surprised how quickly he remembered the terrain modifiers, movement rules, and other game nuances. I think the HoN has more "character" and players have more of a choice as to what units to field. I hope to eventually crack open this game as well.
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I tried the Memoir 44 online a while ago, but got fed up with the pay to play mechanics. I agree that the card movement seemed a little cumbersome but would be easy to learn. Heroes seems to appeal to my oldest son the most, so I will have to judge how much my youngest is truly interested. Has anyone used the Memoir 44 campaign books? Do they require a lot of expansions to use? Thanks for all your replies. Ben


 
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There is only one campaign in the two Campaign Books you can play with just base (Battle for Normandy in CB1), with Terrain Pack you get access to I think three more, then BT, EF and PT each required for their campaigns.

For comprehesive lists:

CB1: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/400024/list-required-ex...

CB2: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/749540/list-required-ex...
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