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Carl Frodge
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I just watched a really bad game review video, and it got me thinking, why would someone create a bad review?

To clarify, I don't mean a review where the reviewer dislikes the game/gives the game a bad rating. I mean a poorly executed review.

In the review I watched recently, the reviewer clearly didn't have a good grasp of the game (they explained how to play the game incorrectly in a major way, they muddled through the explanation, etc.). It was as if they had been taught the game incorrectly and never bothered to check the rules themselves.

At the end of the review, their rating system for the game was very strange and confusing, and didn't make a whole lot of sense (they broke it down into categories, and gave each category a star rating, but some categories were x out of 2 stars and some were x out of 1 star, rather than rating each category with the same number of stars and then averaging the ratings.


Why would someone create a review like this? I mean, if you're gonna write/film a review, you ought to know how to play the game, right? And you've probably seen other, good, reviews, why not take some notes from them? Even if it's your first review, that's not an excuse to execute it poorly. I dunno, what do you guys think?
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I suppose it's the same reason why anyone does anything badly; they don't realise they're doing it badly. I want to ask for a link but respect you for being kind enough to spare the person in question.
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Siouxfire wrote:
I suppose it's the same reason why anyone does anything badly; they don't realise they're doing it badly. I want to ask for a link but respect you for being kind enough to spare the person in question.
While it's true that some people do things badly because they don't realize they are doing them badly... there are people who are aware that they do things badly and still do them. Karoke seems to be a prime example of this. But I agree that in the example given, the people probably don't realize that they are giving a poor review. But I suspect the motivation is that they enjoy expressing themselves.

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I'd put it in the same boat as doing literally anything else, and take the wise words of Jake from Adventure Time
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Why write a bad book? Why make a bad game? Why ever lose a game? Etc, etc, etc.
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My apologies, we're doing the best we can!!

Link to the reviews we've done: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/169800/geeklist-chart...
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The barrier to entry for many things has significantly lowered in the past 10-15 years. Having your words seen by thousands was only possible if you were in a printed magazine. Having our photos seen by millions was only possible if you were in the newspaper business. Having your videos seen by the masses was only possible if you were in the television business. None of these things were easy. Only the people who were driven to achieve it and were lucky enough to be given the platform had their work seen.

Now you just click a button and your work is out there for the world to see. The gate keepers are gone. I'm all for this new frontier of publication, but the consequence is that everyone has a platform even if they probably shouldn't. And what does it matter to them? The effort is minimal. Just some tapping at a keyboard, snapping the shutter or hitting the record button. No sweat lost.
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richcharters wrote:
My apologies, we're doing the best we can!!

Link to the reviews we've done: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/169800/geeklist-chart...

Ha ha, I didn't mean you guys! You're doing a great job, keep it up.

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Dunning-Kruger effect, maybe?
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Easy way to collect a bit of on the assumption that whoever does the GeekMod probably doesn't know the game and won't pay too much attention to the video anyway. Seems you don't need to actually watch the video to GeekMod it. Anyway, why put in any effort if you're only doing it for a couple of geekgold?

As others have pointed out, anyone can create a video with very little effort. They might think they've done an awesome job, and might never have watched anyone else's videos. I know a few kids in my neighbourhood who think their video skills are amazing, but really just like the fact that they're on the interwebz.
 
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It could be many things that lead to a terrible review: they don't know they don't know, their 'bar' is set extremely low and they wouldn't know 'quality' if it smacked them in the face, they aren't really interested in reviewing in the first place, but want an excuse to be seen on the internet, etc.

Like someone else said, these days anyone can put anything on the internet. This is both good and bad. Overall I would say it is resoundingly good.
 
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We'd love to see more good reviews, so anybody who would be interested in contributing to this noble quest is more than welcome:

Voice of Experience Reviews Contest 2015: Prizes!

(one can participate by reviewing any ranked game they've played at least 10 times, deadline is April the 6th.)
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Well, BGG encourages bad reviews. You get microbadge awards based purely on quantity (GeekMod standards are *really* low), while there's no system award for quality. You reap what you sow.
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notclive wrote:
Easy way to collect a bit of on the assumption that whoever does the GeekMod probably doesn't know the game and won't pay too much attention to the video anyway. Seems you don't need to actually watch the video to GeekMod it. Anyway, why put in any effort if you're only doing it for a couple of geekgold?

As others have pointed out, anyone can create a video with very little effort. They might think they've done an awesome job, and might never have watched anyone else's videos. I know a few kids in my neighbourhood who think their video skills are amazing, but really just like the fact that they're on the interwebz.

The review was on YouTube, not on here.
 
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Siouxfire wrote:
I suppose it's the same reason why anyone does anything badly; they don't realise they're doing it badly. I want to ask for a link but respect you for being kind enough to spare the person in question.



That couldn't be more obvious to me. Thanks for articulating what I would hope many feel. Who puts something out for public ridicule they KNOW is bad? Very few if any is my guess.
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nbergom wrote:
Dunning-Kruger effect, maybe?


For those who don't know what this: Often the people who rate their own performance the best are the least competent doing it.
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agentkuo wrote:
The review was on YouTube, not on here.

Well that's a relief

Your reviewers might honestly believe they're doing the world a service with their awesome new idea of reviewing boardgames. There's a chance they've never thought to look for other reviews, or even found BGG.
 
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You're actually questioning quality control on YouTube?

YouTube???

That's like asking why everyone takes videos of their cats wearing silly costumes...
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They could also still be finding they're style and way of doing things. Our early efforts were nothing short of awful. Seriously, like train wreck style bad. Who knows?
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kaziam wrote:
You're actually questioning quality control on YouTube?

YouTube???

That's like asking why everyone takes videos of their cats wearing silly costumes...

I only mentioned they did it on YouTube because someone suggested they did it for GeekGold. Does YouTube give you GeekGold now?

 
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agentkuo wrote:
I only mentioned they did it on YouTube because someone suggested they did it for GeekGold. Does YouTube give you GeekGold now?


I understand you can get geekgold for linking a video. There was a thread recently where someone linked dozens of older review videos with the explicit intention of farming geekgold. Voices were raised, but cooler heads prevailed.
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agentkuo wrote:
kaziam wrote:
You're actually questioning quality control on YouTube?

YouTube???

That's like asking why everyone takes videos of their cats wearing silly costumes... ;)

I only mentioned they did it on YouTube because someone suggested they did it for GeekGold. Does YouTube give you GeekGold now?

Everything should be in GeekGold. GeekGold should replace BitCoin. I want to buy pizza with GeekGold!

And I agree with the Dunning-Kruger hypothesis: The bad video reviewer has no idea that they're a bad video reviewer.
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I know I do some things badly. I still want to do them so I do. I hope I am getting better at some of them
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tallboy wrote:
I know I do some things badly. I still want to do them so I do. I hope I am getting better at some of them


And keep at it! People do things poorly and put online for everyone to see? So what? Sure the signal to noise ratio might be worse off, but in the grand scheme of things, board game reviews are silly to begin with.
 
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