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Barry Miller
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Admittedly I haven't had a chance to play yet... but have been reading the rules and studying the map. So far, I'm only confused by the use of the term, "Winter Zone Border" (bottom right, pg 4). What is that? I don't see it marked as such on the map (though I may simply be missing it).

According to para 3.3, Winter is everywhere during winter, and only in Russia and Finland during the fall. Yet the bottom of page 4 under, "Winter Zone" talks about units having to stop after crossing a "Winter Zone Border". Thusly during the winter, is that any border? The paragraph's use of the river Vistula as an example leaves me with the impression that perhaps the "Winter Zone Border" is that around Russia and Finland only?

Thx!

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Simply means the borders between the Soviet/Finnish areas and the rest of the map in the 4th card play of a year when there is a difference in weather.
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OK, thanks for confirming!


 
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But what is the Soviet border? The example -- "Rivers on a winter zone
border, such as the Vistula, do not freeze" -- mentions a river that is in the middle of Poland and is to the west side of East Prussia.

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westerman wrote:
But what is the Soviet border? The example -- "Rivers on a winter zone
border, such as the Vistula, do not freeze" -- mentions a river that is in the middle of Poland and is to the west side of East Prussia.

Yeah, I also realized that today, myself. So I looked at a few WWII maps and it appears that for a while the western border of Poland was the Vistula river. So I rationalized that's why it's mentioned in the example of a Winter Zone border river.

But your question I think still stands... the Vistula does run through the middle of Poland on the ViE map. So why is it used as an example of a Winter Zone border river?

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Ron D wrote:
Simply means the borders between the Soviet/Finnish areas and the rest of the map in the 4th card play of a year when there is a difference in weather.


Bringing up this subject again because you didn't answer my question as to why the Vistula defines the winter zone border. Is this is a mistake in the example or truly a winter border?
 
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Tom Dalgliesh
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The Vistula is an error. It was once the winter zone border, but that got changed when research showed this river rarely froze. The winter zone border is the Russian border. Change "Vistula" to "Dniester".

Tom

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