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Antonio Chavez
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Is there any reason to preorder? I'm looking forward to Pompeii and there's a tempting "Preorder" button on several online stores, for prices that go from 29 to 31 bucks. Now, the way I see it, I'd pay around 30 bucks now, and they'd send the game when it comes out. Is there an upside for me? Is the game going to be more expensive when it's actually out? Do they expect a huge scarcity of Pompeii? (Not likely, I think).

So, help me out here. Why would I preorder a game that's not likely to run out?


 
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Typically, pre-ordering saves you a few bucks. In many cases, such as the p500 style preorders it can save you like 30%. I can't tell you about pompeii though.
 
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Usually it's terrible to pre-order and I hardly never do. I did recently pre-order but that's a rarity but it was to combine items to reach over $150 for free shipping. Hopefully one of those games won't hold up the entire order.
 
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I don't specifically know about Pompeii but in general...

* Sometimes there is a promotion with pre-ordering, like an extra figure, or map, or something just for pre-orders.

* Sometimes it is cheaper. Similar to the above kind of a promotional thing to encourage pre-orders.

* Some companies won't print a game until they get a certain number of pre-orders. This is what they use to determine which themes/game ideas of the many they want to go with. So pre-ordering some games makes them more likely to print.

* Some games run out of stock quickly following a printing. Pre-ordering helps make sure you get a copy. (i.e. Caylus, World of Warcraft CCG)

* You get the game the second it is available.

I would guess that last reason is why most people pre-order. I usually don't preorder, the few times I have it was because I just knew I wanted the game so I wanted it sent the day it came out. A few times I have regret not preordering something that did end up out of stock. Very seldom have I really seen typial Euro-games via online stores have great sales or promos for pre-ordering them, but maybe every once in a while someone does.
 
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Some companies wont produce a game unless it gets a certain number of pre-orders. They use the amount of pre-orders to determine if there's enough demand for a game to produce it.

Wargame companies take it a step further. They won't produce a game unless they get enough pre-orders to cover the cost of publishing the game.

So if you really want a game, especially a wargame, pre-order it.

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Kenfeldman wrote:
Some companies wont produce a game unless it gets a certain number of pre-orders. They use the amount of pre-orders to determine if there's enough demand for a game to produce it.

Wargame companies take it a step further. They won't produce a game unless they get enough pre-orders to cover the cost of publishing the game.

So if you really want a game, especially a wargame, pre-order it.

Ken



Yes, but this is not the case here which is a more or less standard German game being made available in this way from an online site. The only reason I could see for pre-ordering is if you are concerned that the entire stock will get sold out before it arrives in the US. This was a concern with one of the go rounds of Caylus earlier this year.

But in the case here, well, I think it's nuts. I never pre-order.
 
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There is of course the benifit that if you order from a store that if you pre-order (and have paid), you have locked in the price.

This past year there have been at least two instances where the publisher raised the MSRP (El Grande reprint, and Shogun).

www.CardHaus.com has a written policy that your price is locked in, www.GameSurplus.com has an unwritten policy that they do.

www.ThoughtHammer definitely doesn't, and neither does www.funagain.com

There is a related thread about pre-orders somewhere
 
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JeffyJeff wrote:
There is of course the benifit that if you order from a store that if you pre-order (and have paid), you have locked in the price.

This past year there have been at least two instances where the publisher raised the MSRP (El Grande reprint, and Shogun).

www.CardHaus.com has a written policy that your price is locked in, www.GameSurplus.com has an unwritten policy that they do.


I can vouch for GameSurplus ... I pre-ordered a reprint (Goa) and they honored their cheaper, older price (as opposed to the price they charged when the game actually arrived).

Personally, I don't usually pre-order eurogames unless its something that's likely to be really hot and may sell out quickly (like Caylus, last year)... and that's assuming I can't wait for a later printing.

For wargames, its a different story: most wont even print without sufficient orders, the pre-order discount is likely larger than I will find online, and they (the publishers) often give extra deals for pre-ordering customers.

But generally speaking, I usually wait ... with all the online stores, eBay and even the BGG marketplace, its unlikely you wont find what you're looking for at a decent price ...
 
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Quote:
www.CardHaus.com has a written policy that your price is locked in,


Note that CardHaus has changed their policy (not that I blame them after the Shogun debacle):

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Once payment has been accepted for an order containing a pre-order item, the price of the item for that order will not change unless the originally solicited price from the manufacturer is raised. Should this happen, all confirmed pre-orders will be given the option to cover the cost of the price increase or to cancel their order. If you decide to place a second order or add additional pre-order items after we have instituted a price increase, you must pay the new amount for any additional items you wish to order regardless of the price originally paid for the original pre-order.

 
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PHOENIX GAMES Guarantees Prices on Pre-orders too

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The best reason IMO is to get the game at all, in case the first run sells out quickly and you don't want to wait for a reprint.

Other than that, there's really no reason. The best reason NOT to pre-order is that you don't have to hold up your entire order for 1 game. I honestly don't know how some people can wait so long!!

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Argh!!!! This was the main reason I was going to be throwing all business to CardHaus! (though for this month it's definitely CardHaus with the extra 10% BGG coupon code) Thanks for pointing out their policy change!
earache wrote:
Note that CardHaus has changed their policy (not that I blame them after the Shogun debacle):

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Once payment has been accepted for an order containing a pre-order item, the price of the item for that order will not change unless the originally solicited price from the manufacturer is raised. Should this happen, all confirmed pre-orders will be given the option to cover the cost of the price increase or to cancel their order. If you decide to place a second order or add additional pre-order items after we have instituted a price increase, you must pay the new amount for any additional items you wish to order regardless of the price originally paid for the original pre-order.

 
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BoardsAndBits wrote:
The best reason NOT to pre-order is that you don't have to hold up your entire order for 1 game. I honestly don't know how some people can wait so long!!

Patience is a virtue One reason I don't mind waiting so long in some cases is I already have more than enough games that still haven't made it to the table for the 1st time. Though waiting 6 months for my pre-order containing the El Grande reprint did suck
 
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In this case, when the game is certain to be released, you might just wait and see how the prices compare.

However, if this were a P500 situation, it would be your moral duty to order 'Bertram J. Croft's "This Frosty Hell of Night: Bulge '44"' and then complain later when all the words on the map are misspelled.
 
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Well I did "P500" Blackbeard. But I'll wait and see for Pompeii. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on some "vestal virgins with all preorders" deal for those "in the know"...

Thanks

Antonio.
 
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