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Mike Schmitzer
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I kickstarted posthuman instant. I love anything about it, except the lame wood meeples. They are a no go in my eyes. So please, throw in some nice minis instead. 8 to 12 of them couldn't be too expensive.
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When I started playing games, we didn't even have meeples. We would have loved to have had meeples!

(Cue Monty Python music...)
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When i started playing games, we didn't even had games. We used girls instead ...

(Marvin Gaye starts singing)

But that was long time ago ... so gimme that minis :-)
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I know, people will say, "he's a broken record", "he won't let it go". However, I am copying parts of a reply here, that I've posted on the KS comment section numerous times...

About theme vs. pawns (immersion), having a 400ft scale standee or miniature on a 20ft scale terrain always looks dorky in my opinion. I would rather have round, flat, cardboard tokens with character faces than miniatures or standees. Now, if they make the standees very small, I'm good with that.

As the creators have pointed out, the personal map tiles are very small. To have a 28mm miniature or standee mounted on top of them is going to look just as out of place as a "wooden meeple" (which in reality is a non-descript pawn) would look. It would become a game of Land of the Giants, rather than Posthuman.



If you use the pawn, you can let your imagination do its job.

Again, just my opinion and preference.

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I'm all for small standees. Just my preference. I'm no fan of cubes and pawns in an ameritrash game.

My imagination is already stretched by the map.
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sabbat00 wrote:
I know, people will say, "he's a broken record", "he won't let it go". However, I am copying parts of a reply here, that I've posted on the KS comment section numerous times...

About theme vs. pawns (immersion), having a 400ft scale standee or miniature on a 20ft scale terrain always looks dorky in my opinion. I would rather have round, flat, cardboard tokens with character faces than miniatures or standees. Now, if they make the standees very small, I'm good with that.

As the creators have pointed out, the personal map tiles are very small. To have a 28mm miniature or standee mounted on top of them is going to look just as out of place as a "wooden meeple" (which in reality is a non-descript pawn) would look. It would become a game of Land of the Giants, rather than Posthuman.



If you use the pawn, you can let your imagination do its job.

Again, just my opinion and preference.




Or wooden discs with stickered character faces would be good as well - it's a component upgrade, and keeps the artwork in place without having large standees / minis on the tiles (which I agree with you would look out of place). That's much preferred to standard meeples as well.
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The standees in Darkest Night are small. Those might serve as an example.


I have way too many miniatures to paint as it is. I am fine with standees or flat tokes as described already.
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Miniatures could absolutely run a very high cost for the publisher. You have to find an artist, either get them under contract or buy the rights, get molds made, and have the casts produced separately from the rest of your components and have them shipped in for packaging.

I also think that abstract tokens could help the game here. Your character will, over the course of most plays, change in physical form. What if you won the game as a mutant, rending the last human with your mighty claws, and look down to see a human miniature representing your character. Wouldn't that be worse?
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Ok then standees. Anything is welcome to replace this pawns. They look so terrible cheap and old fashioned and are not thematic.
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Sorry, another brilliant cross post from my KS comments. blush

Personally, I really just don't feel the need for an upgrade over the pawns. The pawns are simply being used as a place marker. The particular spot on the individual tile doesn't matter, facing doesn't matter. The art on the character card and all the other cards will be what you are staring at for immersion and story development, not a hunk of out-of-scale plastic (miniature) or a small placard with art on it (standee).

I don't mean to dismiss the original post. This is just a differing opinion.
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Eric Brosius wrote:
When I started playing games, we didn't even have meeples. We would have loved to have had meeples!

(Cue Monty Python music...)


We used to have tea without milk or sugar. Or tea.
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xord wrote:
The standees in Darkest Night are small. Those might serve as an example.


I tried very hard to give this multiple thumbs but it just kept adding one and then taking it away!!

Seriously, though, I would love something along these lines and think it would fit the game perfectly.
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sabbat00 wrote:
I know, people will say, "he's a broken record", "he won't let it go". However, I am copying parts of a reply here, that I've posted on the KS comment section numerous times...

About theme vs. pawns (immersion), having a 400ft scale standee or miniature on a 20ft scale terrain always looks dorky in my opinion. I would rather have round, flat, cardboard tokens with character faces than miniatures or standees. Now, if they make the standees very small, I'm good with that.

As the creators have pointed out, the personal map tiles are very small. To have a 28mm miniature or standee mounted on top of them is going to look just as out of place as a "wooden meeple" (which in reality is a non-descript pawn) would look. It would become a game of Land of the Giants, rather than Posthuman.



If you use the pawn, you can let your imagination do its job.

Again, just my opinion and preference.


Seriously! I mean, the character sheets have a picture on them if you have no imagination. I prefer wood pawns for a game like this, they're easy to grab and move, have a great weight, fit nicely on the tiles and can be color coordinated to characters if you (still) can't figure out which pawn belongs to each specific character.

+1 for imagination.
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Player pawns are perfect for this game. I am VERY GLAD this is not trying to be another minis game.
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I'm voting for standees(If we could vote).

Anything other than those awfull pawns would be great. They don't fit this games theme IMO.

I love minis but for this game i think standees ala Dead of Winter would be the better choice.
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Cuz plastic minis make everything better? Be careful what you wish for.
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Maybee it´s just me but those meeples remind me of smelling old family games. But if the majority here prefer pawns i sure will find a customisation which fill my needs :-)
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Britzel wrote:
Maybee it´s just me but those meeples remind me of smelling old family games. But if the majority here prefer pawns i sure will find a customisation which fill my needs :-)


I think that's a perfectly reasonable response. I know lots of people who have pimped out their favorite game with customized upgrades.
 
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zombies!!! Minis would do in a pinch. One positive about not having custom minis is that there will less likely be production delays.
 
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My Fireball Island minis are ready for exploration, should I decide to employ them. They are nice and small and of differing colors.
 
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Use what you want. Maybe nuts, screws or bolts. But I think pawns are fine.
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I think the standard wooden meeples are refreshing.
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jgortner wrote:
I think the standard wooden meeples are refreshing.


I agree, the meeples are perfectly appropriate. I might prefer tokens for the characteristics, but with little wooden cubes, it reminds me of Eclipse.

This looks like a very nice game.
 
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Get Risk Walking Dead, use the few pawns from that, Maybe I will get a copy and break it up to sell the pawns in sets for a buck.
 
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I don't care for the shape of the wooden meeples. At first glance, it looked like a hunchback, but then I figured out it was suppose to be a backpack on its back. But worse is that I imagine the tall slender shape will make it easy to knock down.

The amorphous wooden pawns would at least functional. It stands up solidly and be easy to pick up and move around.

I could go either way with standees. On one hand, you've get a more thematic representation of the character you're playing, but standees are easy to knock down. It would also be more expensive to create new characters as in addition to the player cards, you now have to provide the standee representation.

I really don't care for plastic miniatures unless they come pre-painted. Also don't need the extra expense of them.

 
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