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Charlie Neugebauer
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What counts as a match when comparing the opionion cards with the policy cards. That they just be yes or no or that they also match the degree of opionion like yes and more?
 
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Arnold Neumann
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I had the same question and examined the cards in the game published by valley games. I found that the cards for economic redevelopment are printed wrong. As an example the state opinion cards show arrow down and the party policy cards show an "X". Same thing for the white cards for economic redevelopment. All other cards as they should be. Bottom line just look at the matching color and policy.
 
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Doug Cooley
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The cards in this reprint are, in my opinion and the opinion of my gaming group, so bad as to be almost unusable. It's not just the superfluous Yes/More/No/Less graphic, but the terrorism, nuke, and industry graphics are so close as to appear identical, especially on the smaller graphics on the Public Opinion cards.

In a reprint, this is inexcusable. While I understand that component issues often aren't caught until the final game is delivered to the publisher (see the color registration issues in Railroad Tycoon, for example), sometimes the problems can cause serious problems with people misreading the components and affecting the outcome of a long game. I am calling for Valley Games to make available a set of replacement cards, at cost, to those who want a useable set of Public Opinion and Party Platform cards.
 
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Mark Gray
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Doug is right.
The VG edition is my first, and the cards are incredible confusing.
Half way through a solitaire learning game, I had serious questions as to how the economic developement cards worked, and was simply confused by the arrows and x's.
VERY cool game though.
Come on Valley Games!
Make it happen.
 
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James Cheevers
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Pro-cards are white, anti-cards are dark... I don't understand the confusion. Although I agree that the symbols should have been caught before printing.

I agree with Doug about some of the graphics being confusing, however I just ensure that it is pointed out to the players pre-game so they are vigilant.

James
 
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Justin Robben
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James, I agree with you as well...
It really isn't an issue or confusing at all. From afar, the pics are tough to tell apart; just look closer. And the red vs. white is an obvious clue...
Reall, Valley Games did an excellent job with this reissue; I couldn't be happier, even with these small issues.
Gameplay isn't effected, and the game deserved a reprint (an what a reprint it is, thanks Valley!)
 
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Colin Hunter
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I think the production of the game is excellent, but it is confusing for new players. I think once we (my group) gets a handle on the game it will be fine, but untill then the cards are very confusing.
 
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