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Since everybody seems so eager--and yet reluctant--to discuss the future of wargaming, how 'bout the past instead?

I once described my wargaming past in this GeekList. But we don't want this thread to be as overblown as that list, so here's a question for you:

What's one thing (well, two, if you must) that you fondly remember from your wargaming past but don't expect to ever experience again?
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Here's one I just discovered seconds ago (strangely, the billboard has my name on it). It's from before my time, though (I was only three then and wouldn't get into wargaming for another ten years).

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And here's one I do fondly remember. Poring over this flyer for hours on end, I envisioned the lifelong hobby I'm still enjoying today. I don't expect to ever again experience the newness and wonder of it all. I've grown much too jaded.

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Patrick Carroll wrote:
What's one thing (well, two, if you must) that you fondly remember from your wargaming past but don't expect to ever experience again?

Seeing an SPI wargame for the first time, back when I was a teenager. (Some school friends on a weekend trip had brought Invasion America and StarForce along. My mind became expanded. I remember sitting on a balcony reading the StarForce rules and thinking "This is cool!")

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I wish wargames still got bill boards today.
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Playing a game of Third Reich non-stop one weekend, and watching the sun rise,,, twice. I have neither the stamina nor the... uh, "substances" to pull that off again.
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Luftwaffe Flak wrote:
I wish wargames still got bill boards today.

Maybe a series of 'em, like the Burma-Shave billboards?
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Luftwaffe Flak wrote:
I wish wargames still got bill boards today.

Or appeared as large ads on trams, like an abstract strategy game...



(I took this photo in 2007. Normally I do not see any boardgame get this kind of giant ad!)
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Going over to my friends' house on a Saturday morning to play the newly acquired game of Wooden Ships & Iron Men (or whatever Avalon Hill game someone might have gotten that week). I just don't have the time or a group that I can do that with anymore.

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[q="Patrick Carroll"]Here's one from before my time (I was only three that year), which I just discovered seconds ago (strangely, the billboard has my name on it):

Did you just now discover you were born in 1955?
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The thrill of actually getting giddy when I made enough money to purchase a brand new game of 'insert title here' working minimum wage as a kid.
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Getting together with my high school wargame buddy when each new S&T issue and game came from SPI (early 70s). We had bought out another guy's sub, and shared it. The first day (Saturdays) one would read the mag, one the rules, then we would play.
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The excitement I felt of discovering SPI and other wargame companies back in 1998 when I started my first job that gave me actual significant disposable income. Digging through all those old games on the internet and looking through old issues of The General and tracking down those games was a lot of fun. cool I remember fondly scoring an UP copy of Peloponnesian War and completing the Fleet series (I had found Sixth Fleet at a flea market in NC back in 1990) and snagging many other games that still reside in my collection.

With all the internet information (and BGG ) I know I will never again have that raw massive energy that accompanied suddenly discovering all these cool wargames and saying, "Hey, I can actually buy that!"
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First game of PanzerBlitz, when it debuted.
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Coming home every day in breathless anticipation of whether the new issue of S&T had arrived.

Finishing a game of Anzio.
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Patrick Carroll wrote:
And here's one I do fondly remember. Poring over this flyer for hours on end, I envisioned the lifelong hobby I'm still enjoying today. I don't expect to ever again experience the newness and wonder of it all. I've grown much too jaded.



Man I remember doing the same thing with these little flyers. Battle Of The Bulge '65 was my first wargame (still have it) and the excitement of playing it is something I'll never quite feel again. Pure joy, imagination running full tilt...I thought I was there!
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Playing my first game of Axis and Allies. It was a week-long event, but the war inevitably ended by that unstoppable force of "Friend's mom wants her coffee table back." I don't even remember learning anything in school that week. Whole brain was stuck on A&A.
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Patrick Carroll wrote:
What's one thing (well, two, if you must) that you fondly remember from your wargaming past but don't expect to ever experience again?


Although many of the S&T magazine games I got weren't great, I always enjoyed getting them because they'd open my mind to new concepts/ideas that I hadn't seen in previous games. I'm an inveterate 'tinkerer' with games, and so it was always a delight find something that made me go "I wonder how that would effect things if I were to port that system over to this other game..." Unfortunately, with the internet and sites like BGG & CSW, I can now read about new concepts/ideas without having to actually get the physical game, so that sense of excitement/enlightenment no longer has quite the same level of tactile delight that it once did when I'd get my issue of S&T in the mail.
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First game of PanzerBlitz, when it debuted.



I had to beg and plead to get my friend to play PB. I was impressed with the novelty of it and the up-close tactical action. He just thought it was more complicated than it was worth.

Images like the one above still take me back, though.
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Introduced to the original microgame Ogre in junior high school (1978), I looked through the tiny inventory at our local hobby store to buy my own. It was mostly filled with styrafoam shapes for silk flower crafting, doll heads, and other non-wargamey stuff. (Though this WAS where I shopped for plastic aircraft models, too, so it had that.)

I ultimately decided to spend the extra buck on G.E.V., and it's led to 37 years in the hobby...so far! The thing I don't expect to experience again is making my own homebrew alternate counters using Shrinky Dinks!
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Lunga wrote:
Man I remember doing the same thing with these little flyers. Battle Of The Bulge '65 was my first wargame (still have it) and the excitement of playing it is something I'll never quite feel again. Pure joy, imagination running full tilt...I thought I was there!

Wish I still had my original copy of Bulge. I have two copies now, but they're both used copies from somebody else.

I played a solo game in 2010, the fortieth anniversary of when I first played it. It's still a great game. And yeah, it sure brings back memories.

One of my memories (as I've probably said too often in BGG) is of playing Bulge '65 with my dad, who had fought at Bastogne in 1944-45. We played just that once (in 1970, I think), but of course it sticks in my mind. And that wargaming experience is one I'll never have again!
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#1) Seeing wargames in stores.

#2)Playing Star Fleet Battles before it expanded and became a bloated mess. Great, great game. Nothing quite like it.
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Troyer Farms green onion flavor potato chips!

It was tradition that the invited parties would bring the chips. They had to be Troyer Farms green onion.
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Troyer Farms green onion flavor potato chips!

It was tradition that the invited parties would bring the chips. They had to be Troyer Farms green onion.

And you can't get those anymore?

For me and my wargaming friend Lenny, in high school, it was iced tea (Lipton or Nestea powdered, lemon-flavored tea) and soda crackers (saltines).
 
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1955? I was hoping this thread would be about old games. shake

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