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Matt Keyes
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As a follow up to my last inquiry, i've narrowed down the list of the games i'm looking at.

Basically, i'm trying to find a good choice for 2 players (gaming with my wife) that will scale to 4, 5, or 6 when friends/family come over.

i am definitely going to get St. Petersburg, so i'm taking that off the list.

i am definitely not getting El Grande as per recommendations in the last thread (not good for two people).

What that leaves is a list of five games (below). i appreciate comments and suggestions regarding these games as well as any opinions on the games as well.

Here are the games i'm looking at:

Hansa
Leonardo da Vinci
Thurn and Taxis
San Juan
Princes of Florence
Ra (with two player variant rules)

Thanks for the help!!!
 
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I can't imagine Princes of Florence being any good with two players. Four or more is preferable. I've played the two player Ra variant with my girl-friend and thought it was ok, but not something we felt compelled to play again. A game that scales well from 2-6 is not an easy find. However, two games I can recommend in that category are Atlantic Star/ShowManager and Take it to the Limit/Take it Easy.
 
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My opinion on these:

Hansa - playes very well with 2-4, I really enjoy this game.
Leonardo da Vinci - haven't played
Thurn and Taxis - playes very well with 2-4. (Played ~ 40 2 player games of this.)
San Juan - playes very well with 2-4
Princes of Florence - haven't played with two, but the consensus seems to be, the more the merrier here. I need to try Kramer's 2 player variant sometime.
Ra (with two player variant rules) - playes well with all numbers. The 2 player variant has a different feel to it although gameplay is identical and I have played it many times and enjoyed it.


How about:

Trader's of Genoa: 2 player variant work quite well in my opinion, surprising for a Trading game. 3-5 is great fun.

Ticket to Ride: great with any number.

 
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Tom Hancock
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2-5 scales well?

Ticket to Ride
Through the Desert

A lot of the games that have been suggested are pretty heavy, I suggested some lighter ones in case your "5" are not gamers.
 
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Thurn and Taxis seemed much better to me with 3 or 4 than with 2. The fact that, in any given category, you were only fighting over a single point's difference and that the same consolation prize would be there waiting for you whenever you chose to redeem it really changed the game for me.
 
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Ra is the best game on your list, and scales very well from 2 to 5 players. It's best with 3 players, but still good at the extremes with either 2 or 5 players. Doesn't work with 6 though.

Hansa, Thurn & Taxis, and San Juan are all solid choices. All three of those work very well with just 2 players, but scale up to 4 players nicely. None of them work with 5 or 6 players though to my knowledge.

Princes for Florence is fantastic with 5 players, good with 4 players, and I wouldn't recommend it with 3 players, and I've never heard of a 2-player variant for PoF, so while it's a Top 20 game in my opinion, I would not recommend it for your circumstances.

If games that scale well from 2-4 players are what you're looking for, have you considered Knizia's Samurai or Ingenious?
 
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Games from 2-6 players are a headache for me too. I once asked Reiner snore why his games (mostly) only played to 5 and it was to do with the different mechanics required at each end of the spectrum.
However, glancing quickly through my collection, I can reccommend
Carcassonne (with 6p expansion)
Transamerica
Fearsome Floors
Alhambra (better with more than 2)
Bohnanza (better with more than 2)
Bang (better with more than 2)
Pickomino

in the 3-6 player range
Ave Caesar
Power Grid
Settlers of Catan
Robo Rally
Liar Dice/Bluff/Perudo
Cash n Guns (the more the merrier)
 
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Ra.
 
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Did you consider Tikal and Maharaja, or are they a bit hardcore for the visitors?
 
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of the list you chose, having only played Ra, Hansa, and San Juan I recomend all of them and think they all play will with any number. That said I recomend them in this order if you will play them most often with 2.

San Juan (works wonderfully eith every number! Wonderful game!
Hansa (I think it works great from 2-4 as well, but to be honest I found it a little dry)
Ra (One of my all time favorites! I love it with any number, but the 2 player game is a little different that with any other number, perhaps try it with 2 first if you can?)

Josh
 
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