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Ignoring whatever it says in the rulebook, do you guys randomly pick these or intentionally pick / avoid certain ones? Or do you switch it up for each game?

Just curious what other people are doing

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I love the challenge of coming up with a new strategy for each combo of workers/recipes. For that reason, I go with totally random for every game.
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Sounds the fairest for new and experienced players too.

Slightly offtopic, but i didn't use any workers in when my fiance and i played recently. I'm still figuring things out, but maybe i unconsciously gave her a little advantage. Also didn't take a partnership until year 2 either
 
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I tend to take 2-3 workers per game and 0-1 partnerships. However, realize that not every worker will help your game. Also, I have found it to be a little overkill to get more than a single worker for any one ingredient engine (e.g. if I have the Barley Farmer, I don't get the Malt Buyer). And don't do what I did last game: I had the Brewpub and was going to do a variety of advanced ingredients then went and grabbed the Mash Specialist (the one that enhances the Mash Tun). Since the Mash Tun doesn't work with the Brewpub, I had to scramble to change my strategy mid-game. Didn't end up winning that one in the end.
 
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paedia wrote:
I tend to take 2-3 workers per game and 0-1 partnerships. However, realize that not every worker will help your game. Also, I have found it to be a little overkill to get more than a single worker for any one ingredient engine (e.g. if I have the Barley Farmer, I don't get the Malt Buyer). And don't do what I did last game: I had the Brewpub and was going to do a variety of advanced ingredients then went and grabbed the Mash Specialist (the one that enhances the Mash Tun). Since the Mash Tun doesn't work with the Brewpub, I had to scramble to change my strategy mid-game. Didn't end up winning that one in the end.



That rule is kind of unclear for me. Does it mean i cannot even build one if i have the other, or does it mean that I can only use one of the benefits at any one time?
 
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jmcnamara wrote:
paedia wrote:
I tend to take 2-3 workers per game and 0-1 partnerships. However, realize that not every worker will help your game. Also, I have found it to be a little overkill to get more than a single worker for any one ingredient engine (e.g. if I have the Barley Farmer, I don't get the Malt Buyer). And don't do what I did last game: I had the Brewpub and was going to do a variety of advanced ingredients then went and grabbed the Mash Specialist (the one that enhances the Mash Tun). Since the Mash Tun doesn't work with the Brewpub, I had to scramble to change my strategy mid-game. Didn't end up winning that one in the end.



That rule is kind of unclear for me. Does it mean i cannot even build one if i have the other, or does it mean that I can only use one of the benefits at any one time?


It means you cannot use the Mash Tun to discount the Malt for Beers brewed in the Brewpub. It is the same with the Oak Barrelhouse. You cannot get the bonus reputation for Barrel-beers brewed in the Brewpub.

For reference, the buildings overview:
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sorry to be dense, but that means i can still build them if i wanted to?

not sure of the strategic benefits of that though
 
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so, if i'm brewing in the brewpub and in the normal place, can i apply the mash tun and barrelhouse benefits to the beer that is not brewed in the brewpub? or can i flat out not use the brewpub during that particular turn?
 
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You can build them together. You just don't get the benefit from either for beers in the Brewpub. However, let's say you had the following:

1) Double-batch system
2) Brewpub
3) Mash Tun and/or Oak Barrelhouse
4) enough ingredients to brew 3 beer batches

You could brew two batches in the double-batch system and get the benefits of the the Mash Tun/Oak Barrelhouse and ALSO brew a third in the Brewpub WITHOUT the benefits of MT/OB.

Let's say you instead had the following:

1) Brewpub
2) Oak Barrelhouse
3) enough ingredients to brew 2 beer batches.

You could brew one batch in your single system and gain the benefit of the Oak Barrelhouse and ALSO brew a second batch in the Brewpub WITHOUT the benefit of the OB


In the case of the Mash Tun, you only get the benefit for any beer if you do two batches at once in the Double-batch system. So returning to the original setup, but with only enough ingredients for 2 batches, you have a decision to make:

1) brew both batches in the Double-batch system, reaping the Mash Tun Malt discount on BOTH batches (for a total of 2 Malt less)
OR
2) brew one batch in the Double-batch system and a second batch in the Brewpub. Because one of your 2-batches-at-once are in the Brewpub, you CANNOT activate the Mash Tun and will get a Malt discount on NEITHER.
 
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That definitely makes it clear, thanks!

Sounds like you'd have to be really good and/or lucky to make that worthwhile during the normal 3 seasons.
 
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Played our first game with the suggested workers and recipes. For the 2nd game, we went random for both (with the basic recipes of course). Interestingly, the random recipes needed no spices at all, so of course the corresponding local partnership was pointless that game.
 
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Joakley815 wrote:
Played our first game with the suggested workers and recipes. For the 2nd game, we went random for both (with the basic recipes of course). Interestingly, the random recipes needed no spices at all, so of course the corresponding local partnership was pointless that game.



I wonder if it's possible to have a set of recipes that don't use either coffee or fruit. haven't looked at the cards that closely

at first glance, it seems of odd that 1/3 of the recipes don't use 1 of the 3 advanced ingredients... ok it seems to make a little sense now
 
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jmcnamara wrote:
I wonder if it's possible to have a set of recipes that don't use either coffee or fruit. haven't looked at the cards that closely

No, it's not possible with the included recipes. You could almost do it, but there is only 1 advanced Stout recipe that does not contain coffee or fruit (Oat Soda).
 
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