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Shingo Ishikawa
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I recently played this with 3 player after having played with both 4,5,and 6. I really liked how quickly the game goes with large number of players and I was expecting the same with 3 or even quicker. But I quickly realized that our game with 3 would take much longer than 5 or 6 simply because everyone is spread out more.. and there are no easy and quick temples to destroy. In hindsight, I suppose it'll be easier to collect VP through building cities, temples, and occupying sea spaces.. Also I noticed that in our game, one person was prone to get ganged up by the other two..

We did play with the rule that we play up to 10VP with 3 player but we just didn't manage to finish it.. Each of us were spending way too long analyzing their moves. Is this common feelings amongst people here?

What is the ideal number of players? I was looking forward to play this with 2 but now I think that'll take too long.
 
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Maarten D. de Jong
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I think 5 is a good number. And with 2, I'd recommend the variant which is floating around here somewhere. The map is halved in that scenario, and things get quite cramped quite quickly.
 
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Greg Low
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I usually consider Antike to be a, "the more the merrier" type of game. Even with four, I've seen players too easily able to ignore each other since there is so much expansion room.

I've been disappointed by the playout with four players, as I've seen a player get three kings without any substantial conflict with other players. I've never seen that happen in a five or six player game, where space is at a premium, and the kings disappear quickly.

I like five or six players. It ensures that there will be enough contact to keep things a bit more interesting. Just my take on it though.

-Greg
 
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Charles Hasegawa
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Having only played this with the full compliment, I'd have to say its one of my favorite 6-player games.
 
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Tim Taylor
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I'm more of a four player kind of guy, which is why I designed this 2 player variant that mimics the dynamics in a four player game:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/1108381#1108381

TT
 
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Mike Chase
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For me, the sweet spot is three or four.
 
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Mark Bigney
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As is apparent from the diversity of responses, opinion varies. If you like conflict, more is probably better--if you dislike conflict, less is ideal. Somewhere in between allows for a mix.
I personally really dig 4. Gives you maximal choice--militarism is viable, as is pacifism (depending on the flow of the game, of course).
 
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Richard Dewsbery
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*ideal* number? Easy - 3 to 6.

It'll take longer with three, but it's still a great game.

Interestingly, I'm thinking that Imperial (Antike's new brother) suits 4-6 better. Even more interestingly, the game length is pretty much bang on 3 hours HOWEVER many players there are.
 
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Robert Cieślarczyk
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I like to play Antike for 2 Players with only one Nation for each player (without double colors), it's only one condition: they must start the game not so far from each other, not in the edges of the map.

Game for 3 players is not very good. Too much space, game ended too fast even in 12 VP winner condition.

For 4-6 Players this game is the best. Small space, fight for cities and temples, and at last Diplomacy!

My opinion is that a winner condition is too small. They may be a more points to conquest. When all the ancient persons ended (and only then), then a players gets points only for a destroyed temples. This method is quite good to improve limit of victory points.
 
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Daniel Corban
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I have only played two four-player games, but it would seem that at least five would give the most balanced play on the Occident map. With four, there is a relatively large gap in the southwest corner that allows the Romans breathing room while the Phoenicians (which I had the pleasure of being both times) are in a corner penned in by the Greeks.
 
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