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Subject: Rule change suggestion re Naval retreats from land units rss

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Andrew Taubman
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The rules say quite explicitly that any kind of unit can only retreat into an area controlled by another friendly unit.

But this produced an odd situation in my current game where an exclusively naval force in a coastal land area was attacked by an exclusively land force. The sea area next to the battle was unoccupied by any unit. But given that naval units can vacate sea areas it seems reasonable that they could retreat into empty sea areas as well. The sea area it could have retreated to was a valid area for that navy (all galleys) to move to, as it was adjacent to another of that nation's areas that was not in combat.

Similarly with air units, who can vacate any area they like; if an all-air pile was attacked by a land unit it seems reasonable that they could simply retreat into an empty area nearby after one round.

Thanks to all for comment and Harry for any ruling!
 
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Can't offer any advice or comment but it's good to see someone else in Sydney with this game...

I've never actually managed to get my game to the table.

Don't suppose you live anywhere near Sutherland Shire by any chance do you?
 
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I was fortunate enough to play the game with the designer. laugh
 
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Did it help Irving?

Afraid naval units must obey the rules too Andrew, and you have to leave a ship at sea for them to move to. Going into a neutral sea area is like going into a neutral land area, there be dragons.

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Did it help Irving?

Afraid naval units must obey the rules too Andrew, and you have to leave a ship at sea for them to move to. Going into a neutral sea area is like going into a neutral land area, there be dragons.

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Hi Harry,

Having you in the game was a hilight and we didn't have the naval rule issue come up though.

Will have to have another game some time.

Am working on designing a game currently...and it's going well.
 
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Godd stuff Irving.

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Innocent Bystander wrote:
Can't offer any advice or comment but it's good to see someone else in Sydney with this game...

I've never actually managed to get my game to the table.

Don't suppose you live anywhere near Sutherland Shire by any chance do you?
Heavens no, anywhere south of the airport is not a valid retreat space for this little black airfleet.
 
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Harry Rowland wrote:
Afraid naval units must obey the rules too Andrew, and you have to leave a ship at sea for them to move to. Going into a neutral sea area is like going into a neutral land area, there be dragons.
I realise those are the rules for naval and air units, I'm just suggesting they shouldn't be

I mean you could have a spear-carrier attacking an airfleet and it can't retreat?
 
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It should have to win combat first.

But if a spearman and ballista shot the plane, one can always pretend it flew low enough to be hurt, and wasn't able to find a friendly airfield near enough (in retreating, the first step is the hardest part).

Also, there are peolpe in those empty land spaces, only they don't pertain to any organized empire. Perhaps they aren't friendly.
 
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