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Choose the book you'd most like to read and discuss!
Neptune's Inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal, by James D. Hornfischer
Empires of the Silk Road: A History of Central Eurasia from the Bronze Age to the Present, by Christopher I. Beckwith
The Crusades: The Authoritative History of the War for the Holy Land, by Thomas Asbridge
A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 114th Century, by Barbara Tuchman
The Ottoman Age of Exploration, by Giancarlo Casale
Empires of the Sea: The Siege of Malta, The Battle of Lepano, and the Conest for the Center of the World, by Roger Crowley
Iron Kingdom: The Rise and Downfall of Prussia, 1600-1947, by Christopher Munro Clark
The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East, by Eugene Rogan
The Norman Conquest, by Marc Morris
The Kaiser's Army: The German Army in World War One, by David Stone
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Some people changed their votes ...

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Where is the support for "The Ottaman Age of Exploration" ?

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Given the overwhelmingly American user base of BBG I suspect anything to do with either your Civil War or Pacific War will come top.

I then suspect you will be largely talking to yourselves.

Maybe have a separate vote for the U.S focused and global topics - you might get two good discussions that way.
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I had suggested initially that each country get a maximum of ten votes ... whistle
 
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Mallet wrote:
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Where is the support for "The Ottaman Age of Exploration" ?

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Actually that would have been my second vote. I voted for the crusades book.
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danrodz wrote:
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Some people changed their votes ...
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Where is the support for "The Ottaman Age of Exploration" ?

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Actually that would have been my second vote. I voted for the crusades book.


It's not too late to change ...
 
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I just like the PacWar in general and one title in particular. Perhaps the most compelling of the naval campaigns during WW2 as the two sides were practically even in quality and size. Not quite, but there was enough ebb and flow in the battles that it could have gone either way in the end.
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Almost voted for Fall of the Ottomans but decided to vote for Iron Kingdom instead. However I think Neptune's Inferno is a good choice, not one of the better known USN campaigns and a pretty grueling read. Good follow on to Shattered Sword.
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Of these Ive read:
Neptune's Inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal, by James D. Hornfischer.

Empires of the Sea: The Siege of Malta, The Battle of Lepano, and the Conest for the Center of the World, by Roger Crowley ;

A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 114th Century, by Barbara Tuchman;
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The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East, by Eugene Rogan.

These are all really good books but any book by Crowley is amazing his prose and writting style is so much better than most history authors. Neptunes is a close second in enjoyability and ease of reading. The other ones are good book but lean towards the dry. My vote is for the Ottoman Age of Exploration.

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coyotelaughs wrote:
Of these Ive read:
Neptune's Inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal, by James D. Hornfischer.

Empires of the Sea: The Siege of Malta, The Battle of Lepano, and the Conest for the Center of the World, by Roger Crowley ;

A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 114th Century, by Barbara Tuchman;
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The Fall of the Ottomans: The Great War in the Middle East, by Eugene Rogan.

These are all really good books but any book by Crowley is amazing his prose and writting style is so much better than most history authors. Neptunes is a close second in enjoyability and ease of reading. The other ones are good book but lean towards the dry. My vote is for the Ottoman Age of Exploration.



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Figures, I pick one of the LEAST voted for titles, THE FALL OF THE OTTOMANS. I don't know why I even bother taking these polls because it ALWAYS turns out this way! cry
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Figures, I pick one of the LEAST voted for titles, THE FALL OF THE OTTOMANS. I don't know why I even bother taking these polls because it ALWAYS turns out this way! cry


Good Guys Always Finish Last.

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Seriously, I want to read that book also.

Let's organize an "Off-Book Club" for "The Rest of Us".

We already have our own Holiday, December 23rd.

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You can always change your vote...
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I vote for the most interesting option that's available on audiobook. That rules out Crusades, but leaves several other great choices (Distant Mirror, Ottoman Age of Exploration, Empires of the Sea, Neptune's Inferno).
 
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The Crusades book is almost 800 pages!

Neptune's Inferno is about 550 pages.

Both have excellent reviews
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8-RPpFy9A
 
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Mallet wrote:
Some people changed their votes ...

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Where is the support for "The Ottaman Age of Exploration" ?

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Ottoman ought get it outright, but ottoman outta here.
 
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Ottoman ought get it outright, but ottoman outta here.


Attaboy, ottoman.
 
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A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 114th Century, by Barbara Tuchman


This gets my vote because I like future history.
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StephenV wrote:
Hungadunga wrote:
A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 114th Century, by Barbara Tuchman


This gets my vote because I like future history.


Calamitous, without a doubt.

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notquitekarpov wrote:
Given the overwhelmingly American user base of BBG I suspect anything to do with either your Civil War or Pacific War will come top.


Yup - it's the way it is - and when another topic is picked it's usually a US focused one, like the one on the Korean War which only dealt with the US side of things. Drove me bonkers.

But it's also a bit unfair to blame Hunga or even the voters for this - it simply is what it is and there's nothing stopping anyone from stepping forward, doing the legwork and coming up with a list of books on conflicts free of US involvement.
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You can always change your vote...


Sure I could, but then I'd vote for EMPIRES OF THE SEAS, another "loser" on this list!!!! cry cry
 
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eddy_sterckx wrote:
notquitekarpov wrote:
Given the overwhelmingly American user base of BBG I suspect anything to do with either your Civil War or Pacific War will come top.


Yup - it's the way it is - and when another topic is picked it's usually a US focused one, like the one on the Korean War which only dealt with the US side of things. Drove me bonkers.

But it's also a bit unfair to blame Hunga or even the voters for this - it simply is what it is and there's nothing stopping anyone from stepping forward, doing the legwork and coming up with a list of books on conflicts free of US involvement.


I wasn't blaming anyone. I did suggest a way forward though - it just requires more foreknowledge of this problem, that's all.
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I had to vote for Neptune's Inferno. First, I've read it a couple of years ago. Second, I have to read it again. I'm going to San Francisco in December, and I will certainly go and see the USS San Francisco memorial. Can't do that without first refreshing my memory about what exactly happened to that ship in Guadalcanal.
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Of the ten books we've read so far, 4 books involve the US in a major way, and 6 books do not...
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