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EDIT: or maybe not. Who knows!


Read this here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/254258941432033/permalink/41...

News! Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance

Bit more here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/254258941432033/permalink/41...

News, news!

Things are rolling. As I have said on several occasions I have been complaining to Lánzanos (plus Gamezone) about their treatment. Well, Lánzanos answered.

All patrons read it carefully

"Hello Jose Manuel,

We will take action on the matter. During this month you are going to receive a mail inviting all Lánzanos patron Heroquest to join a class action lawsuit against Game Zone for breach of all commitments. Of course, Lánzanos bear all the costs of the process and perform witnessing as an accusation. Let's start the mechanism.

Our soon have news.
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
Is there a place this information is available without us having to join the FB group?
 
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
No...

And the FB group is all in Spanish, so it's a bitch to get hold of anything
 
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
This is an interesting turn. What is their basis for the suit? Extended lapse of the original time line, or has GZ said they will be unable to deliver, or something else?

Seems a bit odd, considering a site like Kickstarter won't get involved in more egregious breaches, seems like Lanzanos would probably have a similar buyer beware policy.
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
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This is an interesting turn. What is their basis for the suit? Extended lapse of the original time line, or has GZ said they will be unable to deliver, or something else?

Seems a bit odd, considering a site like Kickstarter won't get involved in more egregious breaches, seems like Lanzanos would probably have a similar buyer beware policy.


Completely different legal system. Everything you know about consumer protection/class actions/etc... in America doesn't apply across the pond.

Also, completely different company. They seemingly have a different philosophy/evaluation of value from protecting the users than KS.
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
Pure speculation but perhaps Lanzanos heard from Hasbro.
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I guess this is the thread where we finally won't have the inevitable "This game will be awesome!" post by a certain user.
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I guess this is the thread where we finally won't have the inevitable "This game will be awesome!" post by a certain user.


why? This game will be awesome!
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skolo wrote:
Tzer wrote:
I guess this is the thread where we finally won't have the inevitable "This game will be awesome!" post by a certain user.


why? This game will be awesome!


I'm still looking very forward to it!

Unless it just vanishes - hopefully not! haha.

I don't know, whatever - it's super late, like many Kickstarters. I know there's the other issues, but would be interesting to know on what ground Lanzanos are going after GameZone on.

Someone's voucher probably expired and they didn't get the order in by deadline so they're upset - Though chances are Gamezone would take care of them - even if it takes some days for response. I had an issue, got a response in 5 days or so. They cleared everything up.

Maybe someone isn't used to Kickstarters and things being late by a year or more? It happens. THOUGH - all might have been a non-issue if GZ actually gave regular updates and kept everyone in the loop!

Ah well...

EDIT : Can people just wait until game delivery before suing please





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This thread will be awesome!
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This thread will be awesome!


Nah, Phadrus is banned at the moment. I suspect this thread will be merely rocking at best.
 
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would be interesting to know on what ground Lanzanos are going after GameZone on.
That's what I'm waiting to hear. I don't do Spanish so I'm kinda in the dark about that. I'm a little unclear about the thought processes that say "Hey, these guys are LATE on delivering their stuff. Let's sue them into the ground so that they don't deliver AT ALL!" Which is completely different from "Hey! These guys are stealing our IPs and stuff! Let's sue them and make them stop, because, y'know, they're stealing our stuff!" I'm still waiting to see if anyone does that, because that's still a possibility.
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
This is starting to sound like the Up Front project.

A lawsuit will tank this thing.
 
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Dear GameZone.

From my heart, thank you. Thank you for the neverending entertainment. This is a gift that just will not stop giving.

Already looking forward to the next chapter.
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
jonnyrockets wrote:


EDIT : Can people just wait until game delivery before suing please



The problem with that is it's unclear if the legal system will still be around in 2244AD.
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Mr Skeletor wrote:
jonnyrockets wrote:


EDIT : Can people just wait until game delivery before suing please



The problem with that is it's unclear if the legal system will still be around in 2244AD.

The 225th Anniversary Edition will be awesome!
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
Since my reply apparently got lost. Here is try 2.

This seems a little strange really. What exactly is Lanzanos going to sue over? Lateness? The extended silent treatments? Is this at the backers behest? If so then that is even odder as they were perfectly fine to allow it going up even when warned?

Also odd with the project apparently nearing completion as it seems.

Though this might give GameZone a much needed kick in the pants to actually communicate progress.
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tumorous wrote:
Mr Skeletor wrote:
jonnyrockets wrote:


EDIT : Can people just wait until game delivery before suing please



The problem with that is it's unclear if the legal system will still be around in 2244AD.

The 225th Anniversary Edition will be awesome!


BRB. Looking into freezing my head like Walt Disney.
 
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This thread will be awesome!


hey, all of them are!
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Re: Lánzanos is going to sue gamezone for non-compliance
It's not an official communication from Lanzanos, I'd wait and see.

What they say, but I do not know if it's true or not, is that it appears that Spanish Law treats crowdfunding as sales, and that would be the basis for a class action.

Edit: Anyway, I do not see the logic in Lanzanos starting all this, until they are sure that this is not a delay. It goes against the business.
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Danny Richardson Yea.. I saw that, but no idea what it said! It's a picture too so cannot translate. So is Lánzanos trying to reclaim backers' (or bakers, as GameZone say) money?
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Screaming Young Invis That only say that Lánzanos will take legal actions vs gamezone, but it doesnt say anything about the money. Just taking legal actions for breach the contract or commitment with bakers.

Also, it say that they will do that actions on august and will contact all bakers by e-mail, so you should get notices from Lánzanos soon.
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Felipe Perez Sanz All that Screaming says is right, but in Spanish laws there are two paths. Civil and Penal, in the civil path there is a previous réunion between parts in order to get an agreement and if this doesn't work then a judge decides, n the penal path directly a judge decides. This take a long time in Spain. It's a **** but we don't have anything better.
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Screaming Young Invis As Felipe said, this actions could take even years to solve. "Justice" system here is really slow and not fair at all so take a nice seat and get tour beers cold, this will take long.

FB : Must join group. English comments and translation available : https://www.facebook.com/groups/254258941432033/permalink/41...
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I'll translate, but I don't know about law technical terms, so some things may be a bit off:

Lanzanos:
"Hello Jose Manuel,

We are going to take action on this matter. During this month you are all going to get a mail from Lánzanos inviting Heroquest backers to join a class action suit against Gamezone for breaching all their undertakings. Of course, Lánzanos will take charge of all expenses and conduct the case. We are going to start the procedures.

You will hear from us soon."

Jose Manuel:
"Thanks a lot, you show you are professionals.

It would be nice if you published this officially."

Lánzanos:
"We are going to collect all we need to take action and then make it official. Don't worry as it will be during this month of August."
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If Class Action suits in Spain are anything like they are in the US, you'll end up with a fraction of the settlement because the lawyers will take 30, 40, 50+% of the settlement...

Everybody loses but the lawyers....
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