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Can someone please explain the combat table to me...without making fun of me

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Well, obviously if the A and D are the same, then you use 1:1. If A is half the D, then you use 1:2. If A is double the D, you use 2:1. Etc. If A : D is greater than 1:1, but not quite 2:1, then you use either 1:1 or +2 depending on the value of A - D (3:2 uses 1:1, 5:3 uses +2). If this is not clear, maybe you could sight some specific cases we could discuss.
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It was (correctly?) pointed out in the other thread that 1:2 should use the 1:2 column.
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ekted wrote:
Well, obviously if the A and D are the same, then you use 1:1. If A is half the D, then you use 1:2. If A is double the D, you use 2:1. Etc. If A : D is greater than 1:1, but not quite 2:1, then you use either 1:1 or +2 depending on the value of A - D (3:2 uses 1:1, 5:3 uses +2). If this is not clear, maybe you could sight some specific cases we could discuss.


that seems to make sense. I feel like there was a part in the example that showed the attackers with 14 and the defense at 7 and the colum you were instructed to use was +2 -- this threw me off. I dont have the rules with me so I cant confirm this.

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The example in the rules shows a 7 attacker vs a 12 defender. 6:12 would be the 1:2 column, and 10:12 would be the -2 column. The actual attack doesn't quite reach the 1:2 column, so you use the -2 column.

In cases where the ratio matches 2 columns, you use the one that favors the side with the greater value. For example, if the attacker had 2 and the defender had 4, then both the 1:2 column and the -2 column fit. It is in the defender's favor to use the 1:2 column.
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baditude wrote:
Can someone please explain the combat table to me...without making fun of me

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We just played last night, and I think I've finally figured out a way to explain the table in a way that is concise and clear:

- compare the attackerefender ratio of strengths, and also the attacker-defender difference
- if just one column matches exactly, use it (of course!)
- if 2 columns match exactly (e.g., 4:2 or 2:4), use the column furthest from the center (1:1) column
- if you're between 2 columns, use the one closest to the center (1:1) (note - this includes odds off the chart; if you're between 3:1 and the imaginary infinite column, you use 3:1 'cause it's closer to 1:1)
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Just FYI - Martin Wallace confirms that my explanation above gets you to the correct column on the lookup table.
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Well, okay we have just played our first game game of this and we have got stuck working out the combat table. We are not great at ratios and cannot for the life of use work out what to use for 8 attacker to 5 defender - can anyone explain this very simply please!!!!!
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Latex Jedi wrote:
Well, okay we have just played our first game game of this and we have got stuck working out the combat table. We are not great at ratios and cannot for the life of use work out what to use for 8 attacker to 5 defender - can anyone explain this very simply please!!!!!

Attacker is at least 2 stronger (+2) but not quite doubly strong (2:1 =10:5) so attacker uses the +2 column.
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Ah ha, that makes much more sense - thank you for a quick reply.
 
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snoozefest wrote:
Latex Jedi wrote:
Well, okay we have just played our first game game of this and we have got stuck working out the combat table. We are not great at ratios and cannot for the life of use work out what to use for 8 attacker to 5 defender - can anyone explain this very simply please!!!!!

- compare the attacker / defender ratio of strengths, and also the attacker-defender difference
- if just one column matches exactly, use it (of course!)
- if 2 columns match exactly (e.g., 4:2 or 2:4), use the column furthest from the center (1:1) column
- if you're between 2 columns, use the one closest to the center (1:1) (note - this includes odds off the chart; if you're between 3:1 and the imaginary infinite column, you use 3:1 'cause it's closer to 1:1)


Attacker is at least 2 stronger (+2) but not quite doubly strong (2:1 =10:5) so attacker uses the +2 column.


Combat has kept this off the table so far so I'm hear to learn of it and hopefully I can get this played. Using your example:

attacker / defender ratio: 8 : 5
attacker / defender difference: +3

Process:
1) No exact single-column match, so
2) No 2 columns match, so
3) Since you are +3, you are to the RIGHT of the +2 column; You are also to the LEFT of the 2:1 column; therefore, you are between the +2 and 2:1 columns. Using the column closest to the center yields the +2 column.

Ex. #2:
attacker / defender ratio: 10 : 8
attacker / defender difference: +2

Process:
1) exact single-column match - +2

Yah?

Question: What is the maximum power of units one side might have in a battle? How high does one fighting force get for a single battle? 5? 10? 15? 20?

 
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Yes, both examples correct.

No idea about maximum power -- I haven't played this in a very long time.
 
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