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Ricky Gray
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I can't find a specific definition of this anywhere. How many pyramids do i need of each color and how many of each size?

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15 per color (5 each of large, medium, and small)
4 colors (original box was red, green, yellow, blue)

 
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Thanks, Erich. I have 4 of the Rainbow sets (5 colors). I think that leaves me 1 short in each of the colors for Homeworlds purposes. But i have the cool black ones!

I'll be picking up one more Rainbow set now -- thanks again.

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Look up "binary homeworlds". It is the 2 player variant that only uses 3 'trees' (large + medium + small 'mid) of the four colors. You already have all you need.

If you do pick up a 5th treehouse set, look into picking up the volcano caps too. It's a neat little game.
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Cool. Thanks, Todd!

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And you can always stop by Super Duper Games (http://superdupergames.org) to play some testing games before your next gaming night! We have lots of Homeworlds players there.
 
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Preacher wrote:
I have 4 of the Rainbow sets (5 colors).


Then you've got enough for up to 3 players. For a Homeworlds game of N players, you need N+1 nests per color (red, yellow, green, blue).
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cerulean wrote:
Then you've got enough for up to 3 players. For a Homeworlds game of N players, you need N+1 nests per color (red, yellow, green, blue).

Unless they've changed the rules, that's not correct; Playing With Pyramids says you use a standard set (so, four of the single-stash tubes, or five of the Treehouse tubes) for 3-6 players.
 
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With the introduction and success of Binary Homeworlds (which uses 3 nests of each color for a two-player game), the "standard" set-up has indeed been changed to what Ryan describes.

There's no reason you can't play by the rules printed in Playing With Pyramids, but the game with fewer pieces for a smaller number of players is tighter and generally considered to be more interesting.

(Homeworlds is convenient in that the number of Treehouse sets needed to play is one more than the number of players you want.)
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MarcMagus wrote:
the "standard" set-up has indeed been changed to what Ryan describes.

OK, that's good to know. (Where do you see this, though? Neither the designer's "official rules" page nor Andy Looney's Homeworlds page say that.)

MarcMagus wrote:
the game with fewer pieces for a smaller number of players is tighter and generally considered to be more interesting.

Sure, but doesn't the N+1 rule increase the number of pieces per player in 5-6 player games?
 
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It's mentioned in passing on Andy's Homeworlds page under Binary Homeworlds. http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/Games/ILoveHomeworlds.htm... for those playing along at home.

Andy says he recommends using 4/color when playing with 3 players. He doesn't say anything about 5+ players. It would probably be more appropriate to consider this an official variant which is in fairly common use. I don't know if there's any statement from John Cooper about it.

I have more resources and semi-official matter (rules reference cards) at home, I'll see if I can come up with a better reference. It may be that Sinister Homeworlds (of which Binary is a subset) officially uses the modified setup rules. Andy has also talked about Homeworlds a lot in the WWN over the last year or two; we may be going from something we saw there or heard him say and making too much out if it.

I'll see if I can find out more. This is in no way official.
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kuhrusty wrote:
MarcMagus wrote:
the "standard" set-up has indeed been changed to what Ryan describes.

OK, that's good to know. (Where do you see this, though? Neither the designer's "official rules" page nor Andy Looney's Homeworlds page say that.)
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