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ideology

- strong opposition to communism
- strong opposition to socialism (social democracy)
- opposition to liberalism
- opposition to humanism
- opposition to feminism

- regarding a certain non-christian religion as evil and the biggest threat to one's values

economy

- recipients of government handouts are drain on society/economy
- welfare spending cuts
- dissolution of trade unions
- privatization of health care

- large corporate influence on policies
- corporations take over conquered industries (now: halliburton, then: ig farben)
- election campaign supported by rich families with german names (now: koch, then: krupp)

- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")

- demonization of foreign debtors

military

- strong on the military
- budgetary emphasis on military spending

- patriotism (euphemism for nationalism)
- "support the troops"
- reports on atrocities seen as treachery (manning)
- disdain for cowardice and desertion (bergdahl)
- idolization of bravery (the highest honor is heroic self-sacrifice in combat)

- belief that a past war could have been won by the military if not for the betrayal by politicians and pacifist/defeatist parts of society

foreign policy

- aggressive foreign policy
- strong diplomatic relations with jerusalem
- main strategic goal is control over mid east oil, other important resources
- puppet dictators preferred over democratically elected leftist governments

social issues

- illegal for citizens to abort a healthy fetus

- homosexuality seen as an abomination
- but: closeted gays in political positions

- against immigration from poor countries

- tough on crime (high incarceration rate)

- idolization of the patriarchal, nuclear family

culture

- legitimization of political ideology through quack science (now: global warming denial, then: racialism)

- cutting public funding of "useless" university faculties (now: gender studies, then: atomic physics)

- censorship of offensive books/media

- disapproval of urban culture
- disapproval of modern art
- disapproval of black music
- disapproval of student politics
- disapproval of left-wing intellectuals
- disapproval of the french and their culture (except wine)

- idolization of machismo (strong male culture)

- craving for a leader with a pompous can-do attitude
 
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As someone who in basically no way identifies with conservatives may I please say "no thanks" to this thread. Nothing good starts here.

Edit: stupid typing on iPhone
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But where are Modern Conservatives on invading Poland?
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galad2003 wrote:
This is as ignorant as when Conservatives compare Obama to Hitler. Until one party or another kills 10 millions people it's an ignorant thing to say.

fyi this is a response to koldfoot claiming the nazis were socialists

myopia wrote:
But where are Modern Conservatives on invading Poland?

i heard they love kielbasa~
 
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- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")




Totally not the meaning behind that.
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Nazis also liked art and music and children and laughter!!!

YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF NAZIS!!!!
 
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Altair IV wrote:
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- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")




Totally not the meaning behind that.

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The expression comes from the title of a novel by German philologist Lorenz Diefenbach, Arbeit macht frei: Erzählung von Lorenz Diefenbach (1873), in which gamblers and fraudsters find the path to virtue through labour.
 
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single sentences wrote:
Altair IV wrote:
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- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")




Totally not the meaning behind that.

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The expression comes from the title of a novel by German philologist Lorenz Diefenbach, Arbeit macht frei: Erzählung von Lorenz Diefenbach (1873), in which gamblers and fraudsters find the path to virtue through labour.


100% still not what it meant.

Oddly enough I was at Dachau and someone had stolen the original gate.

Here's the original roof:

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If you wish to compare anyone to Nazis, try ISIS.
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whac3 wrote:
If you wish to compare anyone to Nazis, try ISIS.

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Modern Republications are certainly well down the road toward fascism. Extreme nationalism, blaming all problems on their enemies, etc. It is a very unhealthy way to run a political party.
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Nazis also liked art and music and children and laughter!!!

YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF NAZIS!!!!


I don't like laughter nor children.

I'm half/nazi, thank you!
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If you wish to compare anyone to Nazis, try ISIS.
...

Both people pictured are repulsive but ISIS is killing large numbers of people systematically. ISIS claims to be a state and part of its basic policies are mass murders, crimes against humanity such as sawing children in half and forced sexual slavery, ethnic cleansing and hatred of Jews, Christians, etc. The death toll continues to rise.
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But where are Modern Conservatives on invading Poland?


No, just Iraq and Iran.

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If you wish to compare anyone to Nazis, try ISIS.



Well played sir... well played.

 
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Koldfoot wrote:
This is not a response to Koldfoot.

Fucktard was trying to make some strained point about about nazis being staunchly antiabortion, except he would not acknowledge forced abortions for minorities and free abortions for children that might have birth defects.

Then someone else said something. He responded to that person, saying he was going to make this thread. I later told him to make sure he mentioned nazis were for socialized medicine and wage controls when he posted. And somehow fucktard had a schizophrenic moment and convinced himself this was a response to me.

Edit: the quotation boxes got messed up somehow. I can't get it fixed on my phone.

 
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Altair IV wrote:
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Altair IV wrote:
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- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")




Totally not the meaning behind that.

Quote:
The expression comes from the title of a novel by German philologist Lorenz Diefenbach, Arbeit macht frei: Erzählung von Lorenz Diefenbach (1873), in which gamblers and fraudsters find the path to virtue through labour.


100% still not what it meant.

You are wrong, that is what it meant. it was also used in general to promote employment projects to stop the huge unemployment of the 30's.

Why do you think the Nazi's used this slogan in their camps? they did consider jews to be criminals and fraudsters.
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Altair IV wrote:
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Altair IV wrote:
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- idolization of hard work ("arbiet macht frei")




Totally not the meaning behind that.

Quote:
The expression comes from the title of a novel by German philologist Lorenz Diefenbach, Arbeit macht frei: Erzählung von Lorenz Diefenbach (1873), in which gamblers and fraudsters find the path to virtue through labour.


100% still not what it meant.

You are wrong, that is what it meant. it was also used in general to promote employment projects to stop the huge unemployment of the 30's.

Why do you think the Nazi's used this slogan in their camps? they did consider jews to be criminals and fraudsters.



Hard work was going to make them not Jews?


Please stop. Arbiet Macht Frei was not used to inspire virtue.


It was used to instill complacency amongst new arrivals and the townsfolk. The idea that prisoners might be free if they served their time.

Once inside it was dehumanizing. You can never work hard enough to be like your masters because you don't deserve it.

Oh sure some made it out after serving some time. Mostly political prisoners before the start of WWII. But they were never free. Most, if they had a penny in their pocket, fled immediately.

After the start, the only freedom you would see in your future was a bullet if you were exceptionally lucky or the electric fence if you weren't.
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galad2003 wrote:
This is as ignorant as when Conservatives compare Obama to Hitler. Until one party or another kills 10 millions people it's an ignorant thing to say.
I don't know, Hitler had a black mustache and Obama is black, DO YOU SEE, DO YOU SEE?

This that make you Nazi

.They wanting to wipe out a whole race by industrial genocide
.Wanting to outlaw other political parties
.Believing in a state religion
.Total control of the press through law
.Belief in the British empire

Now until you have more than one of those in place you are not even close to being a Nazi.
 
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myopia wrote:
But where are Modern Conservatives on invading Poland?
That just goes to show you typical American geography, they think it is in the middle east.
 
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Damn, the Nazi party sounds so much better that modern conservatives. Where do I sign up?
I could well believe you would.

Would you like a glass of wine with that.
 
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Modern Republications are certainly well down the road toward fascism. Extreme nationalism, blaming all problems on their enemies, etc. It is a very unhealthy way to run a political party.


It isn't modern Republicans going after small proprietors for doubleplusungood thoughts.

War is Peace

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Modern Republications are certainly well down the road toward fascism. Extreme nationalism, blaming all problems on their enemies, etc. It is a very unhealthy way to run a political party.


It isn't modern Republicans going after small proprietors for doubleplusungood thoughts.

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Yours is Mine
love is discrimination.
 
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Forgive the derail, but I have to say, this is giving me a great idea for an EPIC series of GWOT-themed girl-on-girl porn movies. However, I'm struggling with potential titles. Any suggestions?
 
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Forgive the derail, but I have to say, this is giving me a great idea for an EPIC series of GWOT-themed girl-on-girl porn movies. However, I'm struggling with potential titles. Any suggestions?
GWOT?

I assume you mean the war on Terror.

Wang on Terror?

War on tits?

War on bush (lesbian porn)?
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