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J. Beckett
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I love this game and, like others, can’t wait for a reprint. I think it will be awesome. As I sit and think about it, and debate the differences between this and others like EotS and WitP, I wonder how to make this game more perfect. Most everything I can come up with will probably be addressed automatically, but sometimes I am not sure, so I was wondering if any one else had a wish list for the reprint.

The one tiny thing I would like to see is more correct pennant numbers on the ships. I use these games for learning, and would love to see something closer to reality here.



It might be too late for some of this stuff, and it most likely has already been addressed, but hey, it gives us fans something to talk about while we are waiting.
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I would like to see a "campaign" scenario covering the war with China, which would be mainly ground forces with limited naval units. It's been a long time since I've played the game but I don't seem to remember such a campaign.
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There was a China Campaign in The General Magazine Vol28i1 you can download it at https://archive.org/details/GeneralMagazineVol28i1.

I was just saying last night, that a fun “campaign” scenario might be the Gilberts/Marshalls Invasions.

I know Mark is pretty much an expert historian, he could probably whip up many of these in his sleep.

The Scenarios are a big contributor towards making this game great, I do see the day when, after the reprint, and getting it in front of a larger audience, that people will probably start contributing their own scenarios.

I just hope we stick with the granularity that we have with this one, it fits perfect between EotS and WitP.

 
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We are planning to include the scenarios from the GENERAL, after some testing. Would actually be interested in "third-party experience" - anyone here who has played these scenarios? Any particular insights on how they play?

Jim Gordon did a number of scenarios for F&M or MOVES, these were mostly mini-scenarios but did include two large Central Pacific campaign scenarios. We hope to include these too, but there may be a bit more work needed on them.
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Concerning pennant numbers, the problem is that for practical game purposes, contiguous numbers are pretty much required and actual pennant numbers will not be possible for multi-ship counters anyway. Also, note that there are multiple nationalities on the Allied side, whereas the Japanese to my knowledge did not use pennant numbers in practice except for late-war escort vessels that again would not get individual counters. So, the only place where one can try to hew even close to the historical record is US early war CVs, because that was a ship type developed so close to the war that all of them were still in service. And that stops working once the wartime CVLs show up.

Ironically if you actually look at the picture you included you will see that the US CV pennant numbers on these preliminary counters are actually correct as compared to the old version. But to be consistent within the game would require having Langley as CV1, and that contradicts the game's functional classification where Langley is a CVL. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
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So Sorry for not seeing your response earlier. I would have posted right away.

There might be something I am missing, but I cannot see anywhere that contiguous numbers are required for the game. The units just need to be identified, how they are identified is somewhat irrelevant, as long as the values on each unit remain the same. Is there something that I am missing?

The multiple nationalities are tough to deal with in this area. For me if the nationality didn’t use hull numbers to identify each unit, then it is ok to go with what is already being done.

I do understand the Japanese units are hard to deal with as well, but this also allows some artistic license. We could use the numbers in the ONI recognition manuals, but those were guesses and not necessarily correct, but it is a start.

I just think that when history remains silent on certain facts, then we can do what we want, but if history declares something a fact, we should conform to that fact.

Speaking only to the U.S.S. Langley (CV-1), I do think that particular unit should receive special attention. There may be a game balancing issue that requires it to be called a CVL that I am not aware of, but it seems logical that it would be given the same treatment as the Chitose and the Chiyoda in the game. They both can be converted into CVL’s, and that changes their pennant numbers.

The Langley was converted to a seaplane tender before the war started, and became AV-1. That did not change the fact that the Lexington was still CV-2.

At the very least why not designate the Langley as a CV, but keep the stats for that unit the same? There are no rules or guidelines within the game system that I know of that says that a CV (or any unit) has to have certain values to be a CV. The CA’s and CL’s Houston, Wichita, Exeter, Perth, DeRuyter, Tromp, Kuma, Yubari, and Oyodo are all treated as individual units in the game, and hence have much lower stats on the counters compared to other CA’s and CL’s . Is a 14 step division no longer a division if it only has one step remaining?

The U.S. CVL’s are very well numbered as there were not that many built. It is when you get into CVE’s that things get crazy. At that point, just go with the multi-ship division or group.

That brings me to the last thing. Sometimes I think it would be easier to refer to the multi-ship units as groups, divisions or squadrons. For example, for a DD; “Desron 6... DD-6” or cruisers could be “Crudiv 2 CA-2”

I apologize for the lengthy post. Please interpret it only as great enthusiasm for the game, and a joy to talk about. This is a fantastic game, and I am going to absolutely love whatever you guys do with it!

---John

 
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Will the new edition be available soon in 2016?
 
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saturn28 wrote:
Will the new edition be available soon in 2016?


Nuts Publishing hope for a preorder before summer.
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No mention of "when" but it is on their site,
http://www.nutspublishing.com/Pacific-War.

Sporting a 2nd Ed cover as well!

I heard Mark Herman say that it was planned to be a straight up reprint, referring to graphics and map. If there is going to be more of anything such as scenarios, etc that's awesome too.
 
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No mention of "when" but it is on their site,
http://www.nutspublishing.com/Pacific-War.

Sporting a 2nd Ed cover as well!

I heard Mark Herman say that it was planned to be a straight up reprint, referring to graphics and map. If there is going to be more of anything such as scenarios, etc that's awesome too.


Sorry to resurrect an old thread but what happened with the reprint?
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CactusJuice wrote:
4x scalper wrote:
No mention of "when" but it is on their site,
http://www.nutspublishing.com/Pacific-War.

Sporting a 2nd Ed cover as well!

I heard Mark Herman say that it was planned to be a straight up reprint, referring to graphics and map. If there is going to be more of anything such as scenarios, etc that's awesome too.


Sorry to resurrect an old thread but what happened with the reprint?
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Well, their page has disappeared...
 
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But its still showing as in their pipeline
https://www.nutspublishing.com/eshop/pipeline


Navaronegun wrote:
CactusJuice wrote:
4x scalper wrote:
No mention of "when" but it is on their site,
http://www.nutspublishing.com/Pacific-War.

Sporting a 2nd Ed cover as well!

I heard Mark Herman say that it was planned to be a straight up reprint, referring to graphics and map. If there is going to be more of anything such as scenarios, etc that's awesome too.


Sorry to resurrect an old thread but what happened with the reprint?
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