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Subject: Dont put those wave 1 modles together yet!! rss

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Hey fellow backers!! just wanted to remind you guys that you may want to "instamold" a couple of those unique face bases that are coming in Wave 1, so you can make custom base's for future KD stuff!!
 
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What do you mean by 'instamold'? Not familiar with that.
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/32834187?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=222...
 
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So once we make a mold, what material do we use to make more face bases in the mold?
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Wasn't there recently a discussion in the KS comment feed about how awful those Chinese pirates were for selling recast Kingdom Death sculpts?
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So once we make a mold, what material do we use to make more face bases in the mold?


More green stuff! It's also called press molding. It's cheap and with a little practice gets good results. As a bonus, as long as you don't try to sell anything you're perfectly legal to make copies of what you want. Google "green stuff press mold" and you should find a bunch of descriptions, how to's and videos.

Or you could go crazy and make a silicone mold and cast resin or plaster, but it would probably just be cheaper to buy more bases at that point.
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I for one am all for people kit-bashing their own stuff however they want!
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But the amount of green stuff to would take for each insert, seems like it would be cheaper to just buy them.
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I for one am all for people kit-bashing their own stuff however they want!

This isn't kit bashing. It's kit counterfeiting.
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This isn't kit bashing. It's kit counterfeiting.


If you were trying to sell these, pass them off as the original item in a sanctioned tournament or using them anywhere other than in your own house, I would be more swayed.
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I for one am all for people kit-bashing their own stuff however they want!

This isn't kit bashing. It's kit counterfeiting.


You're trying to use the word "counterfeit" to convey immoral behavior and this is not.

If you scan and print a COPY of a page from a book or magazine with copyright or trademarked material for your own private use is that counterfeiting too?

Sell a copy to a friend or sell them on ebay and I agree you've crossed a line, but for use in your own kitbashing at home is legally and ethically just fine.
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If you scan and print a COPY of a page from a book or magazine with copyright or trademarked material for your own private use is that counterfeiting too?


Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.
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Quote:
To counterfeit means to imitate something. Counterfeit products are fake replicas of the real product. Counterfeit products are often produced with the intent to take advantage of the superior value of the imitated product. The word counterfeit frequently describes both the forgeries of currency and documents, as well as the imitations of clothing, handbags, shoes, pharmaceuticals, aviation and automobile parts, watches, electronics (both parts and finished products), software, works of art, toys, movies.


Wikipedia.
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rwwin wrote:
If you scan and print a COPY of a page from a book or magazine with copyright or trademarked material for your own private use is that counterfeiting too?


Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.

Because you were copying things for dissemination.
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But the amount of green stuff to would take for each insert, seems like it would be cheaper to just buy them.


At $1 a piece it would probably be a wash at best. In terms of a $400 game it's not going to save you any real money.

For me the appeal wouldn't be making exact copies but modified versions. Deleting some faces or having some damaged faces to give bases a little extra character. That would be easier to do with a press mold than hacking apart one of the plastic bases.
 
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rwwin wrote:
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LL6869 wrote:
I for one am all for people kit-bashing their own stuff however they want!

This isn't kit bashing. It's kit counterfeiting.


You're trying to use the word "counterfeit" to convey immoral behavior and this is not.

If you scan and print a COPY of a page from a book or magazine with copyright or trademarked material for your own private use is that counterfeiting too?

Sell a copy to a friend or sell them on ebay and I agree you've crossed a line, but for use in your own kitbashing at home is legally and ethically just fine.

Yes it is, that's why companies will add that little "permission to copy for personal use" line when it ones to character sheets etc.
 
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LL6869 wrote:
poeticallybored wrote:
rwwin wrote:
If you scan and print a COPY of a page from a book or magazine with copyright or trademarked material for your own private use is that counterfeiting too?


Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.

Because you were copying things for dissemination.


A work was reproduced to sate the demand of consumers. This is no different.
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Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.


I'm not talking technicalities. Call it whatever you want, but your insinuation that people who want to make a press mold are doing something bad or illegal is your opinion not a fact.
 
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Yes it is, that's why companies will add that little "permission to copy for personal use" line when it ones to character sheets etc.

This is a Jason level fight and I am out.
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rwwin wrote:
poeticallybored wrote:

Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.


I'm not talking technicalities. Call it whatever you want, but your insinuation that people who want to make a press mold are doing something bad is your opinion not a fact.

No, it's a fact, if you want to try and make an excuse for copying someone else's hard work fine, you can lie to yourself, just don't expect everyone else to swallow that lie.
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rwwin wrote:
poeticallybored wrote:

Yes, it technically is. I've worked in an office that printed college course packs (booklets of photocopied course material), most of the contents of which are photocopied excerpts of books that we had to pay to have the permission to reprint.


I'm not talking technicalities. Call it whatever you want, but your insinuation that people who want to make a press mold are doing something bad is your opinion not a fact.


I've made no mention of bad or good, just that it is undeniably counterfeiting. Maybe you're projecting some guilt onto the facts. ;)
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LL6869 wrote:
Nevertellmetheodds wrote:
Yes it is, that's why companies will add that little "permission to copy for personal use" line when it ones to character sheets etc.

This is a Jason level fight and I am out.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean you can't argue with the truth?
 
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No, it's your opinion that it's counterfeiting, by assuming intent and motivation to profit.
 
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Nevertellmetheodds wrote:
LL6869 wrote:
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Yes it is, that's why companies will add that little "permission to copy for personal use" line when it ones to character sheets etc.

This is a Jason level fight and I am out.

I'm not sure what that means, does it mean you can't argue with the truth?

It means that using a personal model for a personal project to create a transformative work of art for personal exhibition with no intention of generating a profit is in fact not copyright infringement.

Yes, this is America and you could sue over it. But unless you're Disney you're probably not going to win.

Morally using your own materials to create art for your own enjoyment is for me fine. Your own value judgement is your own but you're not arguing facts, you're arguing Truth. Truth with a capital T which is your interpretation of facts, which is of course the Truth.

A guy named Jason tried to argue that any reproduction of the KD rules charts was copyright infringement on the KD Kickstarter comment section, even when he was proven factually wrong. So therefor a Jason level argue.
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