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We are launching a group order for Three Kingdoms Redux within the EU member countries from 1 September to 31 October 2015.

Price for each copy of the game
USD 53 (Approximately €47; £34 depending on the exchange rate)
You may refer to http://www.xe.com/ for the updated exchange rate.

Shipping cost per copy
USD 17 (approximately €15; £11) for the first copy, USD 5 for each subsequent copy applies to the following countries:
Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

USD 33 (approximately €29) for the first copy, USD 5 for each subsequent copy applies to the following countries:
Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia

Minimum quantity required for successful group order
100 copies (We will provide an update of the order status on a daily basis at our Starting Player website)

Is this Group Order EU-friendly?
Yes. The game will be shipped from within the EU. We will be working with a fulfillment company who has experience in boardgame fulfillment. Therefore, there are no additional custom duty or tax payable by you. The product price and the shipping costs are the final amount you have to pay.

Estimated Shipment Dates: November/December 2015
o 1-2 weeks to pack the games in Singapore
o 1 week to ship the games from Singapore to our fulfillment company in Europe by air via TNT
o 1 week for fulfillment company to process the orders and deliver the games
o 1 week for delivery of games to group order customers

Free item for early birds
Each copy of the game ordered comes with a free copy of the limited edition Generals' illustration booklet (while stocks last). You may view the booklet at this video we have prepared.

Payment mode
Payment will be via Paypal. We will collect payment only after the minimum quantity is reached and the games are shipped from Singapore. You will receive an email from us after payment has been collected.

For those interested, you may click on this link to place your order now!

We are planning to launch the group orders by region. Subscribe to Three Kingdoms Redux game page on BGG if you would like to be notified of future group orders in other regions. Do help us spread the word on the group orders! Thank you!
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Great, great idea!
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Awesome Idea, Christina! Thanks a lot for this!

As a side note: Is it only possible to commit to the group order if you have a credit card registered with Paypal? When trying to order paypal seems to insist on registering one (might just be my stupidity though).

If it is necessary to register: Will it be possible to pay directly after the minimal order number is reached (credit cards are not exactly common in Germany... so you might miss out on several additional orders).
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Xenos141 wrote:
Awesome Idea, Christina! Thanks a lot for this!

As a side note: Is it only possible to commit to the group order if you have a credit card registered with Paypal? When trying to order paypal seems to insist on registering one (might just be my stupidity though).

If it is necessary to register: Will it be possible to pay directly after the minimal order number is reached (credit cards are not exactly common in Germany... so you might miss out on several additional orders).


No problem.

Based on my understanding, Paypal account can be linked to your bank account. You may then top up your Paypal account by transferring the amount from your bank account.

Please let me know if you still face problem with Paypal and we can try to work out another solution. In the mean time, I will also write to Paypal to confirm on this.
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Thanks, I will try your recommendation soon.

Btw, I don't know if it helps, but I probably should add for the sake of clarity that I can order through your regular shop by Paypal without similar problems. It only comes up if I use the group order version.
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Instantly preordered! Thanks for doing this.
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ordered
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Xenos141 wrote:
Thanks, I will try your recommendation soon.

Btw, I don't know if it helps, but I probably should add for the sake of clarity that I can order through your regular shop by Paypal without similar problems. It only comes up if I use the group order version.


Thank you for your further clarification. In this case, I am not sure whether this is due to the pre-approved payment plan with Paypal as we are not collecting payment upfront. However, I am still waiting for a reply from Paypal as I have told them the situation and ask them whether there are alternative if credit card is not available. Once I receive their response, I will let you know again.

If things cannot work out, we can then make arrangement for direct payment to Starting Player's bank account after the minimum quantity is reached. That will mean I will need to register your copy outside the system since it cannot be captured.

Thank you for your feedback regarding this issue!
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Xenos141 wrote:
Thanks, I will try your recommendation soon.

Btw, I don't know if it helps, but I probably should add for the sake of clarity that I can order through your regular shop by Paypal without similar problems. It only comes up if I use the group order version.


Hi Sven,

I have received a reply from Paypal as follows:

"I understand from your email that you seek clarification regarding Pre-approved payment plan. For this issue, when a buyer tries to complete a checkout in PayPal they can see different option in making payments, for US and Germany users they can see option to make payment funded by their bank.

Alternatively could you check with the buyer to provide you with a screen of the option which is seen from his end? With this information’s we will be able to assist you further."



Please let me know if you still face problem. You can also email me (auntie@startingplayer.com) a screenshot of the Paypal payment option that is available to you when you try to make your purchase. I can then resolve this with Paypal.

Alternatively, if this is too much hassle, you can write to me to confirm on your order quantity, name, delivery address, contact number as well as email. If the group order is successful, I will notify you and you can do a direct transfer to Starting Player's bank account. Thank you!
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Since this might be relevant to more people than just myself: Screenshot sent.

Thanks for looking into the issue.
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Bummer, I just received mine that I paid 91€.
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haplo92 wrote:
Bummer, I just received mine that I paid 91€.

Despite your disappointment, we would like to thank you for supporting us by purchasing a copy of the game.

We have been receiving feedback from EU-member countries' board gamers about the cost of shipping, which led us to researching and eventually launching this EU-wide group order. We are sorry that it wasn't in time for your purchase decision.

Note that the group order still has to reach 100 copies before it can go through and that some time is required for packing, shipping from Singapore to our fulfillment company and finally to our customers.

We've also tipped you a small token of geekgold as a token of appreciation of support for us blush.
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Some boardgamers have approached us and enquired about purchasing more than 1 copy of our game via the group order.

We have therefore checked with our fulfillment company on the additional cost for multiple copies delivery. We are pleased to offer a lower shipping cost at USD 5 for each subsequent copy purchased. (The above post has been updated for the revised shipping cost).

Thank you for all your interest and support!



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We plugged this on our podcast that we recorded tonight. It will soon go out to about 3k folks, so I hope that helps get y'all up to 100 orders soon so more folks can enjoy this awesome game! thumbsup
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eapeas wrote:
We plugged this on our podcast that we recorded tonight. It will soon go out to about 3k folks, so I hope that helps get y'all up to 100 orders soon so more folks can enjoy this awesome game! thumbsup


Thank you Edward!! We appreciate your help to spread the word on the group order!
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I'm in, really hope we get those hundred orders.
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I bought this full price and it kicked ass! Glad that I paid it so I have had the honor to play it much already arrrhgooninjasauronrobotcool
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Apparently you pay with Celery...

[You probably have to order it to understand...]

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Will there be an update on how many orders were placed?
Edit: Sorry, I missed reading it in the info.
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Will there be an update on how many orders were placed?
Edit: Sorry, I missed reading it in the info.


For those who would like to know about the current order status, you may click on this link and scroll to the bottom of the page for a daily update.
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Backed. Hope we get enough people. Only appeared to be 23 when I looked today
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I also backed this - fingers crossed we'll reach the magic 100!

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Backed. Hope we get enough people. Only appeared to be 23 when I looked today

Aren't you quite a celebrity in the boardgame scene?
Maybe you can find a way to make this group order known and reach more potential buyers.
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Backed. Hope we get enough people. Only appeared to be 23 when I looked today :(


25 as of today.

That's a quarter of the way there!
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It's not quick, but if we can keep the ball rolling maybe we'll get there. Obviously we don't want to fall foul of the spam police (as a fully paid up member of LASH, that would be embarrassing), however, are there any active local fora/guilds where this hasn't been mentioned that people could be encouraged to notice it?

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