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Koen Hendrix
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Hi folks,
I'm working on a new co-op card game. It's about a bunch of princesses who, instead of sitting around until their old-fashioned father finds a rich duke for them, take things into their own hands and strive for for their (and their country's) independence. The goal is for every player to obtain a certain amount of independence support; the group loses when someone gets more wealthy suitors than the king has patience for and is married off.

(I might replace their cash-strapped father with an off-the-shelf evil, usurping uncle instead.)

Mechanically, it's a co-op card game with drafting and set collection, and memory and communication elements.
In term of weight, it's probably just a little heavier than Pandemic, as there are few more spendable bonuses to acquire and it takes a little longer to play.

I've thought of calling it DAMSELS but that doesn't seem very catchy.

Any name ideas? Doesn't have to be one word of course.

Thanks!
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I like Damsels, actually.
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petrix wrote:
I like Damsels, actually.


I kind of agree. Seems like a fitting name as that is what they are. You could always ad a subtitle to it below that if you want more description.
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Pride and Prejudice.
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Damsels - The kingdom's in distress

Edit: Damsels really works well, some more subtitles
Damsels - Nobody's Dame
Damsels - Time for Independence
Damsels - Time to rescue the Kingdom
Damsels - A Kingdom to rescue
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As others have already stated DAMSELS seems to fit well.

DAMSELS - ROYAL REBELS
DAMSELS - THE PRINCESS PRIDE
DAMSELS - The SISTERHOOD OF FREEDOM
DAMSELS - THE LEAGUE OF ROYAL DAUGHTERS (L.O.R.D.)
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Great suggestions everyone! Seems like DAMSELS is a keeper.

Carel, I would love to create a Pride & Prejudice game! But its theme of 'I want to marry for love rather than duty' isn't quite the same as this game's struggle for independence.

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Sounds like a great game! Reminds me of this song...

 
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It's probably going to be shortened to Damsels anyway so take the opportunity to add extra words to it to make it easier to search for.

Damsels - Not In Distress
Damsels - Dower Power
Damsels - Doin' It For Themselves
 
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Damsels no more
 
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This is great! I guess we're on a question for an awesome subtitle now.

DAMSELS - Royal Rebellion maybe? Although 'rebellion' sounds a bit too 'guns blazin action' to me...

Nice link to the JoCo track, Brendan! That song is actually one of the things that inspired me to design a game like this, so good guess
 
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Damsels - royal revolution
Damsels - royal revolutionaries
 
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Damsels should really work.

As someone who likes to play with words, here's something from a twisted mind.

Independence Dame

Peas dismissed (referring to the fairy tale)
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khendrix wrote:
This is great! I guess we're on a question for an awesome subtitle now.

DAMSELS - Royal Rebellion maybe? Although 'rebellion' sounds a bit too 'guns blazin action' to me...

Nice link to the JoCo track, Brendan! That song is actually one of the things that inspired me to design a game like this, so good guess


NOOOOOOO!

Subtitles are so clunky and obnoxious! "Damsels" is just fine the way it is! Or maybe...
For A New Golden Age
Blood and Satin
Winning Hearts
Self-Rule
 
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Yeah, I don't think you need a subtitle either
 
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Agreed. Subtitles should be for expansions.
 
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The reason I suggest a subtitle is because the name will likely suggest to prospective buyers that it's about damsels in distress when it's really the opposite.
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robbdaman wrote:
The reason I suggest a subtitle is because the name will likely suggest to prospective buyers that it's about damsels in distress when it's really the opposite.


The accompanying cover art (or perhaps even the typeface of the logo) could do the job of providing the ironic context
 
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robbdaman wrote:
The reason I suggest a subtitle is because the name will likely suggest to prospective buyers that it's about damsels in distress when it's really the opposite.


does anyone really pick up a game based solely on the title without doing ANY research or, at the very least, flipping the box over to read the blurb on the back?
 
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petrix wrote:
robbdaman wrote:
The reason I suggest a subtitle is because the name will likely suggest to prospective buyers that it's about damsels in distress when it's really the opposite.


does anyone really pick up a game based solely on the title without doing ANY research or, at the very least, flipping the box over to read the blurb on the back?


Yes, they do. What's more, they are also quite likely to REJECT a game solely on the title. Or packaging. Or cover art.

People may say not to judge a book by its cover, but in fact, consumers do that all the time. They have to, really, given the enormous number of choices they're confronted with every day.
 
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As for me, "Damsels" all by itself is not going to make me look twice, because damsels, which I think of as pretty, stereotypically helpless young women, are not interesting to me.

What would catch my attention is some kind of modifier that makes it clear that these are not your storybook damsels in distress.

Some examples of what I mean -- and I'm not suggesting these work for your game, but they would make me look twice:

Determined Damsels
Doughty Damsels (which might fit, but nobody knows or uses "doughty" anymore)
Don't Call Me "Damsel!"
Damsels Unite!
 
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Corrino22 wrote:

Doughty Damsels (which might fit, but nobody knows or uses "doughty" anymore)


But on the other hand it might make people think. Drawing attention can work that way.

Daring might be an alternative.
 
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Princesses With Axes
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The Pink Flag of Freedom
The Corset of Our Discontent
Betrothed to Destiny
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karkador wrote:
robbdaman wrote:
The reason I suggest a subtitle is because the name will likely suggest to prospective buyers that it's about damsels in distress when it's really the opposite.


The accompanying cover art (or perhaps even the typeface of the logo) could do the job of providing the ironic context


Sure, good cover art can help with that. Having a damsel in at least one if not more roles of authority would work. Perhaps an atypical damsel standing at a counsel table, hands on the table or one with her index finger up like she's telling them what for. Or maybe a princess standing over an overturned throne in the Captain Morgan pose, with this "Aha! take that!" look. Etc, etc.
 
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