Recommend
1 
 Thumb up
 Hide
14 Posts

Kingdom Death: Monster» Forums » General

Subject: What exactly is Boutique Nightmare Horror? rss

Your Tags: Add tags
Popular Tags: [View All]
D James
United Kingdom
Cheltenham
Glos
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
When I heard Boutique Nightmare Horror, I was very intrigued and thought this game would be something I would be really interested in, along the lines of Silent Hill or Resident Evil. But from what I've seen of the GenCon demos and some articles about it, it looks like a settlement building and fighting game.

Without any real reviews or in depth information about the game, I still really don't know what to make of it. Hopefully there will be more information and reviews forthcoming now copies are arriving with backers.

Where exactly does the nightmarish horror come from in this game, other than some monstrous looking minis? What I've seen in the videos looks fairly bland and hasn't conjured up much of a horror atmosphere. And in what way is it "boutique"? Is that just referring to its likely limited audience due to the price?
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Jason Farris
United States
Medford
Oregon
flag msg tools
badge
There is a duck in every game. You may not see it, but it's there.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Oliblish wrote:
When I heard Boutique Nightmare Horror, I was very intrigued and thought this game would be something I would be really interested in, along the lines of Silent Hill or Resident Evil. But from what I've seen of the GenCon demos and some articles about it, it looks like a settlement building and fighting game.

Without any real reviews or in depth information about the game, I still really don't know what to make of it. Hopefully there will be more information and reviews forthcoming now copies are arriving with backers.

Where exactly does the nightmarish horror come from in this game, other than some monstrous looking minis? What I've seen in the videos looks fairly bland and hasn't conjured up much of a horror atmosphere. And in what way is it "boutique"? Is that just referring to its likely limited audience due to the price?


Boutique = definitely the price. Rumor has it the core game will go for 400 at retail. So don't expect many to sell at that price.

Nightmare = the premise of the game and creepy sculpts

Horror = well, you need to bring that to the table. As you noted yourself, the game is essentially a dungeon crawl in steroids. So it will be as horrific as you and your group chooses to make it.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Joe Zarate-Sanderlin
United States
San Francisco
California
flag msg tools
badge
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Riffing on what Jason said above, boutique because it won't appeal to most, because it is billed as an ongoing art/hobby project, the price point was high as a Kickstarter and has gone up, and if you really want to dig into play, at least assembling if not also painting the minis is part of the appeal.

If you just saw the pre-release materials, I can see where it seems like it is just creepy art pasted on a settlement and fighting game. In the end, it *is* a settlement and fighting game and it is not a complicated one at that. Thank Dog because where it seems to shine (having examined a small fraction of the bazillion cards and looked at the rule/story book) is the insane amount of detail. That is whence the nuance, the complexity, the depth, and the nightmare/horror come. I agree that "monstrous art" would not be enough. From what I can tell, though, the theme seems less pasted-on than grafted somewhat smoothly into the mechanics and the campaign aspect. The only true test will be in the gameplay. I wonder if it will end up being repetitive though with different bells and whistles. As a person who re-reads books a lot and likes playing through video games that I have already finished to see who they play out differently, that's OK with me.

In the end, if you are not interested in campaigns and for some amount of involvement in the hobby aspect, it is not for you. If you do like something with some depth and continuity and the art and theme work for you, it may appeal. I think that they risk they took is if the game bombs, they have a lot of really expensive merchandise on their shelves.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Josh Gilbank
Canada
Markham
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
It was a phrase coined due to the horror aspects of the game, the unique monsters and generally tone of the game and world. The horror will also relate to the events and choices you have to make through out the campaign. While their isn't a lot of info on the world, I think that is mostly due to it causing spoilers for the campaign since you are mean't to go into to the world with the same knowledge as the survivors (little to none) and learn as you progress through the game.

Boutique I would guess as you said is just to justify the high price tag.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
John Paul Messerly
United States
Sherman Oaks
California
flag msg tools
designer
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmb
After playing the game I can tell you the nightmare horror theme comes more from the gameplay than the miniatures. The game deals with dark themes... your group of survivors will have to decide how they deal with issues like cannibalism, murder, and insanity and what depths they are willing to go to survive. The things the creatures will do to your survivors is also far more strange and vivid than what you see in other game. What the game does well is create a strange and dangerous world that forces you to deal with issues we usually prefer to avoid.
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
StevenE Smooth Sailing...
United States
Torrance
California
flag msg tools
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Boutique Nightmare Horror = Kingdom Death: MONSTER
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Stephanie Gustafsson
Sweden
Vallentuna
flag msg tools
designer
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Boutique is in reference to high production values. It is a specialised game that places a emphasis on the quality of the game pieces, dice, tokens and graphic design.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
modern life
United Kingdom
Manchester
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Horror is the price.

Nightmare is how you're going to tell your other half you bought it.

Boutique is where you go to buy her a nice present to soften the blow of the above.
26 
 Thumb up
1.01
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
United States
flag msg tools
publisher
I have never lost at Ascension nor Shards of Infinity.
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I've heard rumors that the term, "boutique", was used because some of the scenarios take place in a hair salon, which may or may not be, haunted.
5 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Ethan Nicholas
United States
Wake Forest
North Carolina
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
modernlife wrote:
Horror is the price.

Nightmare is how you're going to tell your other half you bought it.

Boutique is where you go to buy her a nice present to soften the blow of the above.


I think my wife is even more excited about Kingdom Death than I am...
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Bryan McNeely
United States
Indiana
flag msg tools
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Boutique? Overpriced fashion that looks better on the shelf than on the table.

The "nightmare horror" is what your wallet experiences.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Michael Boehm
United States
California
flag msg tools
mbmb
There are nightmare horror aspects built into the rules mechanics as well. For example, a lot of the things the monsters can do to the survivors count as 'nightmare horror.' And I'm talking about going beyond the standard death and dismemberment thing.

One monster (the 'grand mother') has a special appendage designed to grab and eat men's private parts.

More than one monster have extremely phallic-looking tentacles and I would not be surprised at all if one of the possible things they can do is tentacle-rape your survivor and even, in the case of females, impregnate them with monster babies.

Is that 'nightmare horror' enough for you?

 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Uri S*******
Israel
flag msg tools
Oliblish wrote:
Where exactly does the nightmarish horror come from in this game, other than some monstrous looking minis? What I've seen in the videos looks fairly bland and hasn't conjured up much of a horror atmosphere.


The gameplay mechanics (which are showcased in the videos) are, well, mechanic - so not a lot of atmosphere there (though some of tries, and IMO succeeds, to be flavorful and thematic).

The world itself, however...

(Setting spoilers from various mini blurbs)
Spoiler (click to reveal)
Humans are the bottom of the food chain. The Scribe brings them, and everything else, to creation, on the whims of the "golden entity" - basically a / the god of KD.
Humans are created as slaves / food / toys for the monsters (e.g the Dragon King is vain, so he likes to be worshipped). Just very few of them manage to get the scribe's ink off their eyes (and gain self-awareness) - and most of those are still doomed to die a horrible death.

Most of the "natural" humans are pretty horrible people, like the Great Game Hunters (who hunt slave-humans, but also sell their own children as bondage-slaves-slash-walking-weapon-racks to other Hunter families if they lose their honor or money).

(Some game story spoilers)
Spoiler (click to reveal)
The survivors begin the game with no knowledge (you even have to develop LANGUAGE), alone in the darkness being attacked by a monstrous lion. All the other monsters are hugely grotesque and deadly as well. I think the KS video / book intro passes this quite well.

Add this to the fact that the world is full of very malicious magic like
(HUGE in-game spoiler shown in another site's image board)
Spoiler (click to reveal)
At one point of the game you are visited by a King's Man.

You may (and are sometimes forced) to fight him. If you do, the survivor that kills him is afflicted by the King's Curse.

This curse makes it that at the end of each battle, that survivor suffer a huge, painful mutation (the description for the head location is extra gross and causes the other survivors to go insane), making his bones go outside his body and form a piece of Regal Armor.

Once all body parts have suffered this change, the survivor is completely overtaken by the curse, and becomes a King's Man himself, going off into the darkness, on an important mission for the King...

Horrific enough for ya?
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
D James
United Kingdom
Cheltenham
Glos
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Thanks everyone, for your thoughts! I'm interested in this although it'd definitely what I first expected it to be. I'll keep an eye on the forums with interest for th first reviews!
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Front Page | Welcome | Contact | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertise | Support BGG | Feeds RSS
Geekdo, BoardGameGeek, the Geekdo logo, and the BoardGameGeek logo are trademarks of BoardGameGeek, LLC.