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I presume the German deck is still used from the base game, as 12 scenarios against the Italians would be a little uninspiring.

I guess it might also be possible to use the US deck for some of the later war scenarios.

Can you confirm Chad?

 
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Confirmed, Peter.

As of right now, the twelve scenarios in CC:Mediterranean are:

Germany vs New Zealand;
Germany vs Poland;
Romania vs Russia;
Germany vs France;
Germany vs Canada;
Germany vs Yugoslavia;
Germany vs Greece;
Finland vs Russia;
Italy vs America;
Germany vs Britain;
Italy vs Britain;
Italy vs India.
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Italy v. America

Italian Objectives: Exit off your own side of the map.

Hm... I still can't see how that would be balanced

edited: oops, I missed the Germany v France scenario. Complaint: cancelled
 
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Can't get the balance right with the Aussies
 
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So CC:M will use the German deck from CC:E? Meaning that CC:E is required to play CC:M and CC:M will not be a "stand-alone" game? Somehow, somewhere I got the impression that follow on CC games would be "stand-alone."
 
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kimbo wrote:
So CC:M will use the German deck from CC:E? Meaning that CC:E is required to play CC:M and CC:M will not be a "stand-alone" game? Somehow, somewhere I got the impression that follow on CC games would be "stand-alone."


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Just checked the GMT game page here...
http://www.gmtgames.com/combatcomm2/main.html

and it states...

"NOTE: Combat Commander: Mediterranean is not a stand-alone game. You will need to own Combat Commander: Europe in order to play it."
 
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Chad Jensen wrote:
As of right now, the twelve scenarios in CC:Mediterranean are:
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Finland vs Russia;
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Yesss ... Mediterranean, right!
 
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sos1 wrote:
Chad Jensen wrote:
As of right now, the twelve scenarios in CC:Mediterranean are:
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Finland vs Russia;
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Yesss ... Mediterranean, right!


My thought exactly reading through some of the listed combatants, but I guess (and I may be wrong) this is a carry over of GMT's decision to 'split' what was originally designed to be a single release into two separate (but obviously related) games.
I guess they thought we couldn't handle too much meaty goodness in one delivery
 
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sos1 wrote:
Yesss ... Mediterranean, right!

Steffan,

It's a battle over the famed Finnish Riviera!
 
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Yesss ... Mediterranean, right!


Sooo ... what would you have titled volume two?
 
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Yeah, I guess "Combat Commander: Minors" just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?
 
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Any plans to do an Italians vs. Russians scenario somewhere down the road?
 
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Chad Jensen wrote:
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Yesss ... Mediterranean, right!


Sooo ... what would you have titled volume two?

CC:E Volume II?
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CC:E Volume II?


Um, it is. "Combat Commander: Volume II -- Mediterranean".

I think what you're missing is that there are three "nationalities" in CC:Med:

British (and the Commonwealth);
France (and the Allied Minors);
Italy (and the Axis Minors).

Those three main titles fit the word "Mediterranean". "Finland" then fall under the umbrella of "Axis Minors" (and does indeed utilize the "Italian & Axis Minors" Fate Deck).

But that is really neither here nor there: the word "Mediterranean" is simply included in the title for evocative purposes and to clearly delineate it from other titles - both existing and pending - in the CC series. I'm not sure why it should serve to impart any specific indication that that particular game will only include nationalities bordering that particular body of water.
 
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From another thread, it appears that the Finns will have a couple of special rules as well as their own counters, at least for Sissi units (so quit whining about the Finns). Can I imply from this that minors will have at least some unique country-specific units?

I know that the Brazilians are represented in the Europe set by US units (Scenario 12, IIRC), and we're really just talking about a small set of numeric values, but having country-specific units does add something to my personal enjoyment of the game. Weapons not so much (they were mostly made by a minor's patron country), but it's nice to have a unit that's its own color if for flavor if nothing else. I understand this will increase the price of the game, which is a shame.

BTW, Mediterranean is, I suspect, intended to show that the *primary* thrust of the *expansion* is North Africa and Italy (adding the Brits and Italians, plus the French for Torch). That this allows you to game other situations is just cake.

I would think that this game would be near the top of GMT's "will publish soon" queue...
 
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Combat Commander Volume: II -- Meditteranean And Also Finland Just For The Hell Of It
 
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BagpipeDan wrote:
Combat Commander Volume: II -- Meditteranean And Also Finland Just For The Hell Of It

Why is everybody focused on the anomalous Finns? The poor fellows are so misunderstood. shake

Here's some more fodder for you folks: CC:Med also includes Hungary, Rumania, Slovakia, Belgium, Holland, Yugoslavia, Denmark and Norway (Norway!) - none of which are next to nor sent any combat troops to the Mediterranean Theater.

Flame on! laugh

[perhaps I should retitle the game "Combat Commander: Volume II -- The Rest of 'em"]
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Chad Jensen wrote:
[perhaps I should retitle the game "Combat Commander: Volume II -- The Rest of 'em"]


But then we would be asking....where are the Japanese? Where are the tanks?
 
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Ahrgh! Richard said the "T" word!

You'll hang for this, sir.
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Quite clever, Juan; thanks for the laugh.
 
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Chad Jensen wrote:
Yugoslavia... none of which are next to... the Mediterranean Theater.
Yugoslavia was on the Mediterranean sea.
 
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Yugoslavia was on the Mediterranean sea.

Perhaps if one considers the Adriatic Sea to be just an extension of the Mediterranean Sea this is true.

But isn't that sort of like saying Texas is on the Atlantic Ocean?
 
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Chad Jensen wrote:
Ahrgh! Richard said the "T" word!

You'll hang for this, sir.


C'mon Chad, let's cut the BS. Just give us Combat Commander: Ogre and call it a day.
 
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Can't get the balance right with the Aussies

Since John Curtin brought our troops home we had little part in the European theatre, but we will expect at least a co-starring role in Combat Commander: Pacific.

Although you could make a scenario for the Rats of Tobruk - you've got to admit that was a pretty cool story as far as World War II tactical battles go.
 
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