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Majority Rules


This is an 11 player game with dusk falling when a player has a majority of the votes.

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Seer: Each night chooses a player and receives a result of Wolf or Not a Wolf. Will receive a random N0 negative view.

Martyr:Each night chooses one player and if that player is chosen as the NK target the Martyr will die in their place.

Hunter:If the last two people alive are the Hunter and a Wolf Team Good will win.

5 Villagers

Evil

2 Werewolves: Shares a chat and counts for parity. Each night they will choose a player to kill.

Mimic: May reveal as any role that they have viewed during the game. N0 will be randomized amongst all other possible roles in game (Villager, Hunter, Seer, Martyr, Wolf)

Dusk

Dusk will happen the moment any one player has a majority of the votes on them. Nightfall will not be activated for this game.

11 players=6 votes
9 players=5 votes
7 players=4 votes
5 players=3 votes
3 players=2 votes

There will be times during the day that I will not be able to immediately process dusk due to the fact that this could happen at literally any time. Once a majority vote is reached all players should stop posting as if I've posted no posting. Please GM me when majority has been reached as well for quickest processing.

Dawn

Dawn will be processed when all players have locked their actions or 24 horus after [Dusk] is posted by me-whichever comes sooner. Weekends will not count in this 24 hours.

There will be no talking between dusk and dawn. Talking is allowed at night.

Order of Night Actions:
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Seer View
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Mimic View

Zombie posts are Not Allowed in this game. There is a mimic.

Other stuff:

MISCELLANEOUS

Play to have fun.
Please do not use scripts.
Please do not use encrypted text.
Please do not talk about this game outside of the thread except to the mod or in whatever I cobble together as a Wolf Chat.
Please only use the replace button if you mean it.

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Most of the rules were borrowed from Smugvid who borrowed from Miraria. Once Cassy is back, I'll add in additional detail.
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Re: Majority Rules
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2. Robb
3. PeteVasi
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Re: Majority Rules
The way the N0 view for Mimic worked was different in last run of this game. Let's get this settled up front:

Poll
How should the Mimic's N0 View be handled?
No night zero view
Random night zero view of a villager
Random night zero view of all players
Chosen night zero view by the Mimic
I don't care
Other
      13 answers
Poll created by RoyalApe

 
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So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")
 
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Re: Majority Rules
Robb wrote:
So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")


I really like the idea behind that. Need to use it somewhere.
 
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Re: Majority Rules
Robb wrote:
So another way the mimic could work is

"No view, but on death can choose to reveal as any role".

This gives the mimic less information, but more ability to FUD.

(I wasn't the "other" vote, so don't necessarily interpret this idea as the only definition of "other")


I think this suggestion gives Evil a big hand, which I think we agreed is needed. It allows the Mimic to back up any false claim and destroys any sense of surety on lynch/NK reveal.
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Maybe "Shapeshifter" would be a better role name, since mimic implies a view.
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I'm now voting "Other" to mean this Shapeshifter idea, fwiw.

*Should have been NOW.
 
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I didn't select Other either - did those who did have anything in mind, or just "not these choices"?
 
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Smugvid wrote:
I didn't select Other either - did those who did have anything in mind, or just "not these choices"?


Typo. It should have been "now"
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Re: Majority Rules
RoyalApe wrote:
The way the N0 view for Mimic worked was different in last run of this game. Let's get this settled up front:

Poll
How should the Mimic's N0 View be handled?
No night zero view
Random night zero view of a villager
Random night zero view of all players
Chosen night zero view by the Mimic
I don't care
Other
      13 answers
Poll created by RoyalApe



My choice isn't there. It would be No N0 view, but the mimic can reveal as what they view the same night they view it.
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i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.
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Dake wrote:
i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
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I voted. Whether or not I sign up depends on when it starts.
 
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Robb wrote:
Dake wrote:
i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
LJ is apparently one, I'm another. I can't guess at the third.

First reason is just to be snarky because Royal didn't put any disclaimers / limits on the poll.

Second reason is because there are a number of options that he didn't list that would be more amusing, although more problematic. Look, if Evil got stomped last time (I didn't follow) and you want to ramp the mimic up, one of the scariest ways you can juice him is by making him unknown. Don't let the group decide on what the mimic is before the game start.

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.
B. During N0, let the player decide and as a night action, he can change mimic types.
C. During N0, let the player decide and each night at dawn, he turns into another type and he can't repeat.
D. Randomize it at N0.
E. Randomize it every dawn.

And whatever the choice, don't tell the rest of the group. Maybe give them the list of choices, but don't specify what kind of mimic. The important thing is that the mod is consistent and attentive.

... all of those would make even experienced werewolf'ers wonder about who died when. Are they more of a headache for the mod and the mimic? Sure. But it's new enough to be different and not overpowering, and many players would like the idea of rotational powers. Granted, not as many would like the challenge of going up against someone with rotational powers, but hey, as someone said, Evil needed help.

Anyway, that's my "other" answer.
 
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Robb wrote:
Dake wrote:
i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)


i don't know, man. i don't know.
 
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up to royal, but i would expect that to be a sign-up only poll.
 
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linguistfromhell wrote:
Robb wrote:
Dake wrote:
i like the shapeshifter idea.

i also like mir's idea.

i also like an N0 vill with the ability to view/reveal same target same night.


Dake, you forgot to ask to be signed up...

(How do we have 7 votes and only 4 signups...?)
LJ is apparently one, I'm another. I can't guess at the third.

First reason is just to be snarky because Royal didn't put any disclaimers / limits on the poll.

Second reason is because there are a number of options that he didn't list that would be more amusing, although more problematic. Look, if Evil got stomped last time (I didn't follow) and you want to ramp the mimic up, one of the scariest ways you can juice him is by making him unknown. Don't let the group decide on what the mimic is before the game start.

A. During N0, let the player decide for himself from a list of options.
B. During N0, let the player decide and as a night action, he can change mimic types.
C. During N0, let the player decide and each night at dawn, he turns into another type and he can't repeat.
D. Randomize it at N0.
E. Randomize it every dawn.

And whatever the choice, don't tell the rest of the group. Maybe give them the list of choices, but don't specify what kind of mimic. The important thing is that the mod is consistent and attentive.

... all of those would make even experienced werewolf'ers wonder about who died when. Are they more of a headache for the mod and the mimic? Sure. But it's new enough to be different and not overpowering, and many players would like the idea of rotational powers. Granted, not as many would like the challenge of going up against someone with rotational powers, but hey, as someone said, Evil needed help.

Anyway, that's my "other" answer.


nah, evil didn't get stomped.

but it'd be fun if the mimic could be any kind of mimic it wanted. that would be weird and scary.
 
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so the aux evil gets to choose between

mimic: N0 villager, view/reveal same target, same night. does not know wolves.

shapeshifter: no views, can reveal as any role in the game. does not know wolves.

is the ambiguity too powerful? seems cool to me.
 
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Give the mimic a random N0 of a non-villager.
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Give the mimic a random N0 of a non-villager.


I think guaranteeing its a non villager is a little too powerful. Unless maybe they don't know who their non villager is.

Maybe they are given one role they start knowing how to be, without knowing who it came from?
 
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I voted for a Mimic N0 of a Villager, but I'm probably in the don't really care column. I don't like the choose-your-role thing, I'd rather have the role up front, but I'm flexible enough about it. Being able to reveal the same night as the view is quite a strong addition. Another option is to go Cultist-Mimic. Knowing the wolves is a big boost. Viewing one for the wolf reveal becomes a choice the Mimic can make.

Also interesting that the Mimic was first made because a Cultist-Sorcerer wasn't a strong enough aux...
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