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Subject: Ice Maidens - please share and discuss your ideas here rss

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Frank Heeren
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The purpose of the special landscape tiles is to collect ideas how to further balance the factions. We invite all interested players to share their ideas on how to use these tiles for each faction, for instance to provide an advantage or disadvantage to a faction.

Please give ideas you like a thumbs-up. Later, a voting shall decide which ideas work best.

This thread is dedicated to the Ice Maidens only.

Important: Do not simply post anything you come up with off the top of your head. Please test your idea first before you post it here.
 
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Frozen Idol:
Condition: None.
Costs: terraforming.

Function: It is a building with power value 2. Can't be upgraded.
The Frozen Idol counts as a temple.

Edit: For the same reason I edited my Yetis' landscape suggestion, I think it's better to add a SH condition.
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Frozen Palace
Condition: None.
Costs: terraforming.
Function: +1PW every time you gain PW from Cult track. +1 W every time you enter in step 10 of a cult track.
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Ice Circle:

Condition: Stronghold
Cost: terraforming
Function: building with power value of 1. Can't be upgraded. Ice maidens can convert an unoccupied land (except volcano) directly adjacent to the ice circle to ice at the start of each round.
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Winterfell

Condition: none
Cost: terraforming
Effect: is a 1-power building, can't be upgraded. Whenever the Ice Maidens build a temple, they immediately gain a spade.
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melendor wrote:
Frozen Palace
Condition: None.
Costs: terraforming.
Function: +1PW every time you gain PW from Cult track. +1 W every time you enter in step 10 of a cult track.


I really like this one for Auren. Auren get built in cult advancement and have low power income. This plays to their strength and addresses a weakness, at the same time. Although, Auren are pretty weak and might even need (slightly) more than this.
 
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Ice Castle

Condition: Temple
Cost: Terraforming
Function: Building with power value 1. Can not be upgraded. When terraforming an indirectly adjacent space (i.e. one that is accessible by Shipping), place the Ice Castle on a River space that is directly adjacent to the newly terraformed space. You may build a Dwelling as usual on the newly terraformed space.

The Ice Castle is still considered a River space for the purposes of indirect adjacency for other players.


Similar to the Mermaid's special ability of creating a town across a river, but the Ice Maiden's tile acts as a building for power-leeching and town-building purposes.
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Skyswooper wrote:
Frozen Idol:
Condition: None.
Costs: terraforming.

Function: It is a building with power value 2. Can't be upgraded.
The Frozen Idol counts as a temple.
Wouldn't that be a bit strong? How about a power value of 1 and/or requiring the SH?
 
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DocCool wrote:
Skyswooper wrote:
Frozen Idol:
Condition: None.
Costs: terraforming.

Function: It is a building with power value 2. Can't be upgraded.
The Frozen Idol counts as a temple.
Wouldn't that be a bit strong? How about a power value of 1 and/or requiring the SH?


Ice factions struggle more to expand than other factions because they don't have free hexes.

This landscape buff them (because it helps for a town) without altering their struggle to expand.

I don't think the power value buff on Ice maiden is important. Yetis already have SH and SA with 1 more power and aren't op.

I didn't suggested the condition of requiring the SH because a temple alone didn't generate any VP anyway (now there is also the new round scoring).

Note: It counts as a temple, but does not grant a favor tile nor a priest income!


 
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Skyswooper wrote:


Note: It counts as a temple, but does not grant a favor tile nor a priest income!




So it's a temple for... round scoring? Otherwise it might as well just be a building with power value 2. Or can it be upgraded to a SA too?
 
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CommissarFeesh wrote:
Skyswooper wrote:


Note: It counts as a temple, but does not grant a favor tile nor a priest income!




So it's a temple for... round scoring? Otherwise it might as well just be a building with power value 2. Or can it be upgraded to a SA too?


No, it can't be upgraded to a SA (written in the description).
The temple proc with round scoring and Ice Maiden's SH.
 
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mmcgeach wrote:
Winterfell

Condition: none
Cost: terraforming
Effect: is a 1-power building, can't be upgraded. Whenever the Ice Maidens build a temple, they immediately gain a spade.


I really like this one. It addresses the weakness of IM(hard to build a large network) whilst combining it with their most important mechanism. Building those temples will be more worthwhile and in general i think it would give them about 2 or 3 extra hexes. Which isn't such a bad idea.

edit: it's even possible to minimize the effect if it's too powerful by setting 1 temple as a requirement.
 
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Anemic wrote:
mmcgeach wrote:
Winterfell

Condition: none
Cost: terraforming
Effect: is a 1-power building, can't be upgraded. Whenever the Ice Maidens build a temple, they immediately gain a spade.


I really like this one. It addresses the weakness of IM(hard to build a large network) whilst combining it with their most important mechanism. Building those temples will be more worthwhile and in general i think it would give them about 2 or 3 extra hexes. Which isn't such a bad idea.

edit: it's even possible to minimize the effect if it's too powerful by setting 1 temple as a requirement.


I think Ice factions should remain "frozen", and shouldn't receive direct help for spades. But it's just an opinion.
 
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Iceberg:
Condition: SA
Costs: None
Function: It is a building with power value 1, can't be upgraded.
The Iceberg is placed when building the SA on a river hex that is not already occupied by a mermaids town. The river hex does not need to be in shipping range or any kind of adjutancy of Ice Maidens. Mermaids can't build a town on it, shipping is not blocked.

Shall be an incentive for Ice Maidens to build a SA which they often don't want. It is quite strong can give connectivity and is a very good help for founding a town.
 
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Skyswooper wrote:
CommissarFeesh wrote:
Skyswooper wrote:


Note: It counts as a temple, but does not grant a favor tile nor a priest income!




So it's a temple for... round scoring? Otherwise it might as well just be a building with power value 2. Or can it be upgraded to a SA too?


No, it can't be upgraded to a SA (written in the description).
The temple proc with round scoring and Ice Maiden's SH.


/facepalm I don't have F&H yet and I forget some of the new faction abilities
 
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Ice Maidens (Winter Palace)
Immediate reward: you take immediatly a Favor Tile.
Permanent ability: from now on, whenever you build a Temple, you get 1 Spade; if you build your Sanctuary you get 2 Spades.

Here my thread with proposal ALL othe factions.

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/21272181#21272181
 
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