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Loren Cadelinia
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First off, just wanted to give props to Ryan for such a neat game.

I wanted to clarify just to be sure we are playing this correct:
Potions and ciders can only be used at the end of round during "rest villagers" phase.

Thanks!

I wonder how different the game would be if we were able to use them in the round we purchased them. Too powerful?
 
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That is correct. From what I remember, they are used during the "rest villagers" phase as you said.

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I wonder how different the game would be if we were able to use them in the round we purchased them. Too powerful?

I think it can be a little powerful because you will be able to use the same villager twice in a round (imagine that with the +villagers or villagers great at exploration), but I've only played A&B once.
However, that could be an idea for a variant.
 
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That's correct! Cider to rest a villager without a bed, potion to heal from injured to exhausted so they can be rested/cidered that turn.
 
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just don't forget

Potions can be used to bring villagers only from injured to exhausted.

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Ciders can to bring villagers only from exhausted to ready.
 
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chris0zz wrote:
just don't forget

Potions can be used to bring villagers only from injured to exhausted.

And

Ciders can to bring villagers only from exhausted to ready.


Couple folks in my group struggled with this, to my surprise. I wonder if little icons between the sections with arrows pointing left would have helped.
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Maybe calling the Potion 'medicine' instead will help. Use medicine to help hurt villagers.

Maybe even taking the resting phase steps might help too? When resting you are suppose to use any potions and/or ciders then after that you can use your beds. Maybe it'll simplify things a bit if you're not already doing that?
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Actually I think it's not that difficult, like you said Potion is like a medicine. So you use the Potion to cure hurt people.
 
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dyepbr wrote:
First off, just wanted to give props to Ryan for such a neat game.

I wanted to clarify just to be sure we are playing this correct:
Potions and ciders can only be used at the end of round during "rest villagers" phase.

Thanks!

I wonder how different the game would be if we were able to use them in the round we purchased them. Too powerful?


Thanks!

Yes, and you must use them before using beds.

I think they might be too strong if you could use them mid-round-- it would certainly lengthen the game as well.
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mostman79 wrote:
chris0zz wrote:
just don't forget

Potions can be used to bring villagers only from injured to exhausted.

And

Ciders can to bring villagers only from exhausted to ready.


Couple folks in my group struggled with this, to my surprise. I wonder if little icons between the sections with arrows pointing left would have helped.


I do find it a little counter intuitive to have cider make you less exhausted - it normally makes me sleepy (In the UK cider refers to an alcoholic drink, but now I think about it, I think I've seem Americans use Apple cider to mean what we'd call apple juice)

I suppose coffee and tea don't exist in their world.
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entwife wrote:

I do find it a little counter intuitive to have cider make you less exhausted - it normally makes me sleepy (In the UK cider refers to an alcoholic drink, but now I think about it, I think I've seem Americans use Apple cider to mean what we'd call apple juice)

I suppose coffee and tea don't exist in their world.

The cider is alcoholic, the villager uses it to convince another villager to share their bed.
The rules specifically mention that one villager cannot use two beds, but is silent on the topic of two villagers using one bed.
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Born-of-Ashes wrote:

The cider is alcoholic, the villager uses it to convince another villager to share their bed.
The rules specifically mention that one villager cannot use two beds, but is silent on the topic of two villagers using one bed.


Aha! It all makes sense now
 
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Born-of-Ashes wrote:
entwife wrote:

I do find it a little counter intuitive to have cider make you less exhausted - it normally makes me sleepy (In the UK cider refers to an alcoholic drink, but now I think about it, I think I've seem Americans use Apple cider to mean what we'd call apple juice)

I suppose coffee and tea don't exist in their world.

The cider is alcoholic, the villager uses it to convince another villager to share their bed.
The rules specifically mention that one villager cannot use two beds, but is silent on the topic of two villagers using one bed.


I really think that Ryan wanted someone to understand the underlying theme of sexual intercourse. Somewhere now he is reading and smiling...
I prefer this explanation also.
You get her drunk, she wants you, no extra bed needed.
Sweet! Will say that to my girlfriend as we play...
 
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mechanicalfish wrote:
dyepbr wrote:
I wanted to clarify just to be sure we are playing this correct:
Potions and ciders can only be used at the end of round during "rest villagers" phase.
Yes, and you must use them before using beds.

I think they might be too strong if you could use them mid-round-- it would certainly lengthen the game as well.


So if I understand correctly:

* You can potion an injured Villager, then rest them to full health.
* But you cannot rest an injured Villager, then cider them to full health.

Is that correct? If so, then Cider is not nearly as useful as potions!
 
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Solamar wrote:
So if I understand correctly:

* You can potion an injured Villager, then rest them to full health.
* But you cannot rest an injured Villager, then cider them to full health.

Is that correct? If so, then Cider is not nearly as useful as potions!


Right. Potions are spent, then ciders, then beds.
 
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