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John A. White
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Need some math,

What is the production cost for 108 original cards VS. 54 printed twice?
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How much will I save if I design the game to hold 2 of each type VS. 2 unique print set ups?

Don't include art cost... just production runs of 1000 and maybe 5000.
 
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It depends on the printing company and the discounts they offer. I have found some of them seem to have extravagant costs for custom sized decks. However, I landed with Drivethrucards, and they have costs that are per card, regardless of whether each card is the same or custom (prices below are double-sided cards as well). I don't know how they compare with others for high volume (a 108 card deck on premium cards would cost you $6.50 at runs of 1000 cards), but for low volume I couldn't find a better price.

http://www.drivethrucards.com/pub_podcard_cost.php
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Great post. and a solid reminder that if your card is not a trope in shape your in trouble, due to custom cutter made. (tarot, Poker, Mini, Bridge, Square, are fine)

So, I am seeking the production cost (specifically DIFFERENCE) from over seas mass printing pandagm, wingo or some company that is as good. I am looking to gain insight on the money saved for repeating one production set up VS. 2 unique set ups.
 
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i think this depends more on traditional offset vs the kind of laser printing Printerstudio and others do

offset printing they'll need to make a set of 4 plates to print the job (C, M,Y and K). let's says for generalizing purposes they can fit all 54 cards on one sheet. if you run 2 sets of 54 cards this then is cheaper than 2 separate sets of plates, one for set A of 54 and one for set B of a different 54.

back when i was doing graphic design and printing more things each of the platers was like $75. so you'd save $300 with printing set A twice

with new laser print on demand technologies this is not the case. there are no plates. the job is just printed on a huge laser printer so there is no cost savings by doing 2 sets of 54 over 108 unique images

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John A. White
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Awesome!!
the $300-ish is offset by the size of the production run.

Now to do the math in my head... um.... Where is that old Wingo quote I had for unit cost.


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I am trying to figure out the value of repeating cards twice. And also learning the value of consolidating by repeating.
Love Letter has 3 games per 54 card printing.

In this instance, I am doing the math of 108 unique cards VS. the savings of 54 cards printed twice. (Not respecting art cost)
 
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For larger quantities, look at makeplayingcards.com. Same company as Printer's Studio, but set up only for cards, and good discounts for more copies.
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