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Their special power states they may not, but I wanted to check.
 
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If I recall correctly, movement should be possible, but shipping is forbidden.
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I've ruled the other way around -- Fremen shipping into a space in storm (taking half losses) is ok, because it's explicitly mentioned in the rules. But moving into the storm is excluded.

Frankly I've always been a little uncomfortable with that just because it doesn't really seem to be logically defensible, but that's how I read the rules.
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So they can ship into a stronghold in storm, taking half losses, but not move? OK.

Thanks!
 
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My group is pretty liberal about this. We play that you can come into a storm within 4 of the Great Flat with a token group losing half to the storm.

For example, say the Shield Wall has been blown and the storm moved over Carthag, wiping out whoever was previously there. We play the Fremen could come onto the planet with a token group into Carthag (at half loss), even though technically they would, say, "ship" into the Polar Sink then "move" into Carthag.

Hey, it's one of the only decent advantages the Fremen has!

EDIT to add:

Of course this would be all of Fremen's movement phase (without Hajr).
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Rich, considering the Fremen need all the help they can get, I think your liberal policy about Fremen "shipping" and moving works through a storm works well. They should be fearsome!
 
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I'm actually not against the more liberal interpretation myself, for the same reasons. I think I was convinced at one time that being able to sneak into covered strongholds would be too powerful, and that's just the way the ruling has stood for quite a few years. Since I'm also looking for ways to beef up the Fremen without breaking rules extravagantly, I may consider changing my current ruling.

Thanks for bringing this up!
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