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Michael Olsen
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So, I am trying out a very very agressive Germany going east, and while I admit the Axis have been slightly lucky so far (in the diplomacy), it has proven to be a very effective strategy... so far.

The picture is end of December 1939. Sorry about the bad picture quality, I am terrible at taking pictures, but for an overview I think you get the (he!) picture.

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September I declared war on Soviet, and took Poland.

October was spend invading Denmark. That was easy, we Danes are lovers not fighters ; - )

November was a break from all the fighting.

December was spend on taking Norway (who says you can not invade Norway in Poor weather? Certainly not me, although I admit there was a slight chance of it failing).
The diplomacy advantage from taking Norway was spend on making Finland Pro Axis. In the same turn the Axis draw diplomacy success, which activated the Finns (who are all too eager to strike on Russia of course).
The same turn the West drew Diplomacy Failure, which was used on activating Italy (who I made pro axis back in September I believe).

The idea is to move troops up through Norway and Finland, to be ready tro strike Russia from 2 fronts when winter clears up.

In the meantime Italy is going to strike Yugoslavia, and hopefully I can make Romania an Axis power without invading it. That will give Soviet a real headache.

Now, if only I can complete this before the West activates...

Thoughts?

I am still a newbie at this game, so probably I made tons of mistakes. Please feel free to point them out, thanks.





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Looks good so far. A long 1940 seems to be in order for the Soviets arrrh
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Michael_Olsen wrote:
The idea is to move troops up through Norway and Finland, to be ready tro strike Russia from 2 fronts when winter clears up.
Don't forget that German troops moving through Norway and Finland will need to be supplied.
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Dig In wrote:
Michael_Olsen wrote:
The idea is to move troops up through Norway and Finland, to be ready tro strike Russia from 2 fronts when winter clears up.
Don't forget that German troops moving through Norway and Finland will need to be supplied.
Thanks for pointing that out. Supply is the part I find the hardest actually.

So... I can get 2 limited supply from Oslo, or just the convoy in Hamburg for unlimited supply (but the convoy gets 1 sortie per unit), is that correct?

Thanks for any insight.
 
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That's correct. You might consider an air unit in Norway for the Strat War benefits--it gives the benefits whether at full or limited supply.
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Just to clarify, the convoy cannot supply the ground units in Scandinavia if it's in Hamburg. It needs to be in a port on the end of the supply line, not the start.
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mark dey wrote:
Just to clarify, the convoy cannot supply the ground units in Scandinavia if it's in Hamburg. It needs to be in a port on the end of the supply line, not the start.
Great, thanks. Then the plan is to have the convoy positioned in Oslo, and use it to supply 2 units, which are going up to the Finnish border, and down again to help against the Russians.
I can have no more than 2 units in full supply, because otherwise I can not keep up with removing the sorties (only 2 sorties can be removed per convoy in the replacement phase). But that is ok, 2 units seems like a good number.

I can then keep 1 or 2 garrisons in Norway. Maybe not now, but later on they will be needed to defend Norway.

Thanks for the help. I will post pictures in, say, slightly less than a years playtime from now, including short monthly reports as above.
 
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The Soviet lines are looking pretty thin. I didn't check the numbers, but did you remember to trigger the USSR Northern Border event when you activated the Finns?
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Hattes wrote:
The Soviet lines are looking pretty thin. I didn't check the numbers, but did you remember to trigger the USSR Northern Border event when you activated the Finns?
Thanks. No the northern border was not checked, I missed that.

I also just now realize I can not trace supply through Norway, due to lacking infrastructure, so it looks like I need to conquer Sweden (or befriend them, but I would rather conquer).
 
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Fixed Finnish border:

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The northern route should probably also be defended, or Russia may lose Murmansk/Finns Oulu pretty quickly.
 
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Michael_Olsen wrote:
I also just now realize I can not trace supply through Norway, due to lacking infrastructure, so it looks like I need to conquer Sweden (or befriend them, but I would rather conquer).
No need for that, just park your convoy somewhere in Finland (for example Helsinki).
 
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Hattes wrote:
Michael_Olsen wrote:
I also just now realize I can not trace supply through Norway, due to lacking infrastructure, so it looks like I need to conquer Sweden (or befriend them, but I would rather conquer).
No need for that, just park your convoy somewhere in Finland (for example Helsinki).
True, true. I actually did notice that after posting, but decided to go for Sweden anyway, since in many ways I am still learning, and I particularly want to try how much can be done in Scandinavia (very little it seems, which makes sense).
 
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Daemou wrote:
The northern route should probably also be defended, or Russia may lose Murmansk/Finns Oulu pretty quickly.
I left the northern route unguarded in my first play - I then realized an Axis unit could be Strat Moved all the way to the doorstep of Murmansk.
So you probably want to cover both routes with the two armies you get for the North Invaded event. In my case Norway was conquered, and Sweden and Finland were Axis. So a German ground unit in Oslo could strat move all the way to northern Russia with nothing in the way.

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I particularly want to try how much can be done in Scandinavia (very little it seems, which makes sense).
You'll find any time that you are tracing supply via sea that the size of your offensives are limited. Not necessarily bad or of no use, but usually just a single army with air support, or two ground units.
And the faded hexes in Scandinavia make it a single lane for moving.
 
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Not to veer off topic...but has anyone tried sending the Swedes into the Eastern Front?
If:
Norway = conquered
Sweden = Axis
Finland = holding the line against the Red Army

Couple of extra armies could be helpful on the northern part of the Russian front.
 
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Dig In wrote:
Not to veer off topic...but has anyone tried sending the Swedes into the Eastern Front?

Couple of extra armies could be helpful on the northern part of the Russian front.
I've had the Swedes as German allies a couple of times, but the problem is you need to also have Finland to get full supply (without using the expensive convoy), and even then there's not enough space for them to matter. I still have sent one of their armies over, using the convoy for supply or keeping them in low supply. Same as all allies, they are very useful against breakthroughs etc but start to become a liability in the front line when USSR gets proper units.

In one game, Sweden was Axis but Finland was Soviet. The Soviets actually sent planes over and managed to break through and conquer the whole of Scandinavia by early 1944. It didn't matter, though, since the Allies had lost the whole of Africa and Middle East in that game. But that's the only time anything happened in Scandinavia for me.
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Remember if Finland is an active Axis country, Axis Swedish units can not move into Finland due to Cooperation Limits (10.3.2). It can Strat Move or trace supply through it.

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