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After some discussion about possible design contests for next year in this thread, I have decided to host another contest in 2016.

The inspiration for this contest comes from the One Full Sheet Label Contest held back in 2011.

The constraints are pretty straight forward. 1 page, no cutting, no limit on components (no customization), and no limit on rules. The entries should be able to be printed on both A4 and American letter paper (this was also discussed at length).

The dates are TBD at this point. The contest will likely run for 2-4 months with a 1 month voting period.

What are your thoughts for the contest? The rules will probably be similar to the rules for the Mint Tin Contest.

The [tentative] voting categories:
1. Best Overall Design
2. Most Creative
3. Best Theme
4. Best Artwork & Design
5. Best Written Rules


Note: This is a discussion thread only. All feedback, suggestions, and comments are appreciated. Thank you.
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R4D6 wrote:
The constraints are pretty straight forward. 1 page, no cutting, no limit on components (no customization)
I understand everything except the straightforward part.blush

No cutting the 1 page, so the 1 page isn't for components? So, the 1 page is the game board and you use other standard/common components???

Whatever it is, I'm probably in.
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Yes - that was the idea. However, I think the last time this contest was run, you were allowed to cut up the 1 page for various components.

I'm open to modifying this constraint. Just want to make sure it's quick and easy to print and play the designs.
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R4D6 wrote:
However, I think the last time this contest was run, you were allowed to cut up the 1 page for various components.
That's right. In 2011, the contest allowed for components as long as all components fit on one page. Games like Jasper and Zot had counters and a board that you cut up.

Personally, I'd rather see components that you cut allowed.
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If you don't have any components and everything was one page that wasn't allowed to be cut...

Are we talking about like a folk game where you talk about it? Or an RPG where it's all in your head?

You kinda need something to track *some* thing for it to be considered a "boardgame"?

Even Ouija needs a component separate from the board.
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Tuism wrote:
If you don't have any components and everything was one page that wasn't allowed to be cut...

Are we talking about like a folk game where you talk about it? Or an RPG where it's all in your head?

You kinda need something to track *some* thing for it to be considered a "boardgame"?

Even Ouija needs a component separate from the board.
Unlimited components are allowed as long as they are not customized (I assume that means any number of dice, colored wooden cubes etc).

But I agree it is more fun to be allowed to cut up the sheet for counters/cards etc.
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*reads the thread*

Damn, I'll never be able to think of an idea that's only one page.

*walks outside to get a glass of water*

*inspiration hits me with a baseball bat*
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Oh, I see, so you can use dice and bits of stuff that's just lying around. Like Playing Cards with aces and etc, like dice, like... Even tokens, as long as it's not like "a red token and a blue token and a brown token".

Okay
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Tuism wrote:
Oh, I see, so you can use dice and bits of stuff that's just lying around. Like Playing Cards with aces and etc, like dice, like... Even tokens, as long as it's not like "a red token and a blue token and a brown token".

Okay
I would definitely expect from the description that asking for colored tokens would be ok? "Customized" to me means something like having to print out stickers to put on wooden blocks, or "you need to take a marker and write X on 25 of the red cubes". If the game says "you need 20 red cubes and 20 blue cubes to play" I think that would be fine because that is ready-made tokens that do not require customization? Not that you can prevent players from using their favorite colors instead, but being able to refer to them as "red" and "blue" in the rules, and have matching red and blue things drawn on the one-sheet, makes sense, instead of vaguely just saying "color 1" and "color 2" or whatever.
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I assume the rules are not limited by this single sheet requirement?
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polyobsessive wrote:
I assume the rules are not limited by this single sheet requirement?
R4D6 wrote:
no limit on rules
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R4D6 wrote:
no limit on rules
Note to self: re-read the post before asking dumb questions. whistle
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pelni wrote:
polyobsessive wrote:
I assume the rules are not limited by this single sheet requirement?
R4D6 wrote:
no limit on rules
I don't understand this, what does it mean that the rules are not limited by the single sheet requirement?
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I believe the game board + any paper pieces, etc. are limited to the 1 page (then, add any common components: dice, cubes, etc.).

Separate from that, the rules are a stand alone document - they don't need to fit on the 1 page that is the game.

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R4D6 wrote:

The [tentative] voting categories:
1. Best Overall Design
2. Most Creative
3. Best Theme
4. Best Artwork & Design
5. Best Written Rules


Note: This is a discussion thread only. All feedback, suggestions, and comments are appreciated. Thank you.
I suggest "Most Creative" be re-named "Most Creative Game Mechanic".

I believe the other "creative" options would fall under "Best Theme" or "Best Artwork & Design".

In other words, a game with a very creative theme shouldn't win "Best Theme" AND "Most Creative". At least, that's how my brain sees it.

Or, does "Most Creative" mean something else?

Thanks.
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Ryinth wrote:
*reads the thread*

Damn, I'll never be able to think of an idea that's only one page.

*walks outside to get a glass of water*

*inspiration hits me with a baseball bat*
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Or, does "Most Creative" mean something else?
Most creative: use of the page, theme, story, flavor text, origami, interpretation of the contest rules, etc.
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This is going to be fun!

Perhaps we'll even see a postcard revival?


minimal versions of boardgames on playable POSTCARDS that aren't wargames with a sheet of tokens

The PnP POSTCARDGAME CONTEST - CLOSED! THANK YOU!
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chansen2794 wrote:
R4D6 wrote:
However, I think the last time this contest was run, you were allowed to cut up the 1 page for various components.
Personally, I'd rather see components that you cut allowed.
Does this mean the player supplies cubes or pawns which you then require them to cut?
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Wait, so no cutting AT ALL? Does that mean I can't do another bookmark-based game?
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The questions and feedback are helpful. Thanks!

I'm leaning towards allowing 1 page (1 sided) of printed components which can be cut out (board, counters, tiles, dice labels, cards, etc.) and any [reasonable] number of generic components (dice, cubes, poker chips, etc.)
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Does anyone have suggested dates (sometime in 2016) for the contest?
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Well, I find that earlier in the year I tend to have more time for contests... as the year progresses, things get busier and busier... so I'd say somewhere around March - but that's just me. No need to make your entire contest fit my schedule!
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Sounds like fun! One thing i always wish we could get out of these contests is more feedback from the voters. Things like how many games they actually play and how they come to their conclusions. Perhaps there should be a prize for best reviewer as well
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adularia25 wrote:
Well, I find that earlier in the year I tend to have more time for contests... as the year progresses, things get busier and busier... so I'd say somewhere around March - but that's just me. No need to make your entire contest fit my schedule!
I'd agree. Maybe Jan 1 to Mar 31 submission time. Or Jan 15 to Mar 15.

I'm fine with anything, but would prefer a submission deadline sometime around March.
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