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I'm looking for a game to play with 15-18 year old boys, which are complete nongamers (riding on motocycles and such).
(It's a workshop for a youth centre)

I was told they like to play Rummy.

My first though was of course, TTR, but we'll play with them in the open in the summer, so I'd prefer a game with less bits.

SO:
- multiplayer (no 2 player only games)
- something Rummy-like (no text on cards)
- accessible / simple. Low skill (not Tichu)
- few bits - playable outdoors
- boys friendly theme if possible . I'd like to avoid theme-less games.(neutral can work)
- it can be a different traditional like card mechanic, it can include auction.
(no deckbuilders, no drafting, no engine building)

(Otherwise we'll get them Bang the Dice game and Kakerlakenpoker)

As a less of a this style of game For Sale also crossed my mind, just not sure if we can buy it in Europe right now (or if FLGS we're connected to can get it).
 
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Coloretto might fit the bill. It's just a deck of cards. No text.
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I'm not sure I get the parameters of your "less bits" criterion, but Forbidden Island/Desert would fit the bill.
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Can't believe I didn't think of this the first time: 7 Wonders, for sure.
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Mystery Rummy: Jack the Ripper
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sgosaric wrote:

- no text on cards

- I'd like to avoid theme-less games.
These two make it tricky, as they generally are in opposition (theme = chrome = text).

But, maybe

Biblios
Splendor
Ra (maybe too many bits? But there's a convenient bag for them :-) )
Ra: The Dice Game
Citadels
Sushi Go!
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Terror in Meeple City is a quirky, light-hearted take on set collection with a theme that teenage boys would probably get in to. How well it would work outside probably depends on how windy your area is.
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Wyatt Earp like the above Jack the Ripper suggestion, is a game in the mystery Rummy series. There is a little bit of text, but not much.

My favorite set collection game might be Samurai. It also involves area control. It just got a reprint, too.
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I also suggest Wyatt Earp. There's a new edition, so it should be freely available. Also, the Western theme might appeal to your audience.
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LizzieReads wrote:
Coloretto might fit the bill. It's just a deck of cards. No text.
Oh, right. Yeah, might work. (I don't find it too exciting, but it's cheap and our budget is limited)

Phasmtis wrote:
Er. Don't see any connection to what I was asking for.

MK is exactly what I want to avoid.
Tsuro. Well, we did play Indigo with another group this year. Will keep in mind (Indigo that is).
JustinDJacobson wrote:
I'm not sure I get the parameters of your "less bits" criterion, but Forbidden Island/Desert would fit the bill.
Wind happens outside.
Playing area is on the grass/dirt. So: no little bits.

We were discussing co-ops for this group. And we already tried Forbidden Island with other groups. It was at the top of tolerable complexity. Also means, we'll have no trouble borrowing it from other groups.

JustinDJacobson wrote:
Can't believe I didn't think of this the first time: 7 Wonders, for sure.
No engine building, no complicated rules, no text (icons in this case) on cards.
Plus: way too many bits for outside.

Somewhere around 2.0 is the maximum weight tolerated.
zombiegod wrote:
Good idea. But I think too much foreign language text on cards.

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sgosaric wrote:

- no text on cards

- I'd like to avoid theme-less games.
These two make it tricky, as they generally are in opposition (theme = chrome = text).
Theme as in "attractive illustrations".
Just enough to make them want to play.
For instance: Hanabi is too boring for kids as there's no theme. Sushi Go is already good as there's sushi. No abstracted card games. (Coloretto is passable, I think)

Biblios - thought about it, but looks too boring in current editions.
Splendor - no engine building
Ra / Ra: The Dice Game - hmm, will think about it. Would like something more immediate.
Citadels - they own it, will try
Sushi Go! - we can try
Gamemanue wrote:
Terror in Meeple City is a quirky, light-hearted take on set collection with a theme that teenage boys would probably get in to. How well it would work outside probably depends on how windy your area is.
Grass. No way.

Heck, we've played Ka-Boom in a closed class room and bits were lost.
(it's oop currently, I think)

pfctsqr wrote:
Wyatt Earp like the above Jack the Ripper suggestion, is a game in the mystery Rummy series. There is a little bit of text, but not much.

My favorite set collection game might be Samurai. It also involves area control. It just got a reprint, too.
I like Wyhatt Earp suggestion, but I think it's too much english text for them.

Samurai. hmm. Okay, will check. (If price point is similar to TTR though, we'd rather go with TTR).
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Just to say: thanks for the suggestions.

Just keep in mind:
very very casual gamers/kids
picnic like playing conditions
language independent

P.S.: Love letter for instance has too much foreign text for it to work. (I have it translated and we'll print pnp versions for them, but that's just 16 cards).
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Archaeology: The Card Game is the most rummy-like game that fits your other criteia, I think.
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Bang the Dice Game is a solid choice. Also look at Ninja Dice.

Cash n Guns might have too many bits, but c'mon. You are pointing guns at each other! It also plays up to eight.

Sushi Go! is not particularly manly with smiley-faced sushi pics, but still might be acceptable.
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Guillotine?

Only a few of the cards have text and could be translated, IIRC most of them don't.
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Qwirkle is a great easy entry, low complexity game for non gamers. It also uses chunky tiles, great for outdoors.

Coloretto is also terrific. And Sushi go.
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Twice in one day, I'm going to recommended Garden Dice. Instead of Ticket to Ride's collecting sets to play, the sets you collect are themselves the end game points.
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Thanks - bring on some more!
(I take it as collective brainstorming, so everything is appreciated).

geschichte wrote:
Hanabi
Looks boring to kids. What can I do?
sine_square_x wrote:
Archaeology: The Card Game is the most rummy-like game that fits your other criteia, I think.
Cool. Will check. And also if it's available in Europe through our FLGS.

(I don't know what is it about stealing treasure, but all archaeological themes come across well. By archaeological I mean there's a mummy somewhere and that kids stuff their pockets with plastic diamonds or equivalent).

Scottgun wrote:
Cash n Guns might have too many bits, but c'mon. You are pointing guns at each other! It also plays up to eight.
This one is tricky. It's good if kids are nice to each other in general. If they're nasty and come in packs and groups, not so much. We'll get this for another group (another youth centre) and then we can try it with this group. (my gut feeling says: these kids need some co-ops, not cash and guns).
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Sushi Go! is not particularly manly with smiley-faced sushi pics, but still might be acceptable.
Bought it last year for another group, we can borrow it and try.

(we bought is as there were a lot of girls in that group and it went well. This is a very boys group)
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Bang
Oh my god the icons. We'll get them the dice version.

JohnnyDollar wrote:
Guillotine?

Only a few of the cards have text and could be translated, IIRC most of them don't.
Not sure how easy this one is to get. But I was told Beasty Bar is similar and we sure can get it here. So, uhm, thanks for reminding me on Beasty bar.

chearns wrote:
I have no idea what is it with Bohnanza. Doesn't work (i.e. kids don't want to play). The official version that is. My copy worked well (cartanginian's redesign without the questionably bits). One group has still unplayed copy, so we can try.

Pit - oh yeah, we need this. For this or that group. Thanks for reminding me. (hope our FLGS has an access to any of its versions)

Swat - no idea what it is about, name sounds promising. Will check.

Iliad_Keys wrote:
Qwirkle is a great easy entry, low complexity game for non gamers. It also uses chunky tiles, great for outdoors.
Hmmm. It is good for outdoors and would adress the "rummy itch" I feel.
It can just be a bit expensive. Have to check how much it costs. But, a good idea. thumbsup
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Twice in one day, I'm going to recommended Garden Dice. Instead of Ticket to Ride's collecting sets to play, the sets you collect are themselves the end game points.
No idea what this is, will check.
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Checked games:

Archeology the Card game - Good one! Not sure if gettable in Europe.
Garden Dice - Too convoluted (for this audience). Might as well grab Carcassonne.
SWAT! - Great! Why would I pick Ra, if this is the same scoring, but more fun? However I'm not sure which implementation of the same idea would be available in Europe (there's also It's mine and Take it!).
 
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Hmmm, maybe Unexploded Cow. It might have too many bits, but you can print pnp game for cheap.

The Great Snowball Battle is okay game with a funny theme as long as they let down their teenager guard down.

I would say Between Two Cities, but maybe too many pieces

The reason why I mentioned Tsuro is because it worked with 8th grade boys just fine when I showed them the game last year.
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Cheeky Monkey would work outdoors easily as players draw poker sized chips (animals) from a bag in this push your luck game.
Cloud 9 is another push your luck where players try to wait until the last minute to jump from the balloon before it crashes. The cards & dice are colors. The only cards with text are the Wild cards, which are obviously wild.
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My family really loves Royals, its a very good game Another good one is Fairy-tale, and then maybe Viceroy its excellent. Good luck
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