Piotr Konieczny
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The changes seem cosmetic enough (mostly art, etc.) that I am not sure this really needs a different BGG entry from innovation. Should they be merged? Any thoughts on that?
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Prokonsul Piotrus wrote:
The changes seem cosmetic enough (mostly art, etc.) that I am not sure this really needs a different BGG entry from innovation. Should they be merged? Any thoughts on that?
Innovation deluxe will be a compilation contatining:
Innnovation 3 edition - with new look and rebalance
4 expansions: 2 previously avaiable and 2 new.
And such compilation will different least by 80% of its content from base game...
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Jorgen Peddersen
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Yeah, it's essentially the Innovation Big Box, and those qualify for their own entries.

The new edition of Innovation, which Deluxe will include, shouldn't (and doesn't) have its own entry.
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Clipper wrote:


The new edition of Innovation, which Deluxe will include, shouldn't (and doesn't) have its own entry.
I wouldn't exagerate the "shouldn't". The "new" Through the Ages is only new art and few tweaks to the cards and rules and got its own entry.
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Yeah, once you start changing the rules I think that a new entry may make sense. These changes significant enough to warrant that.
 
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I would say it would be like Puerto Rico and its limited version. They are the same rules, but got different BBG entry

In Innovation deluxe, they have adjusted some card power. However, those changes can be applied to old version either
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rafal100 wrote:
Clipper wrote:


The new edition of Innovation, which Deluxe will include, shouldn't (and doesn't) have its own entry.
I wouldn't exagerate the "shouldn't". The "new" Through the Ages is only new art and few tweaks to the cards and rules and got its own entry.
They are much more than tweaks in the new "Through the Ages". The new tactics rules alone make a big difference in the game, and the card mix changed a lot (in addition to more than a few cards changing their rules)

Definite meaningful changes to game play should warrant separate entries.
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gamezendo.com wrote:


They are much more than tweaks in the new "Through the Ages". The new tactics rules alone make a big difference in the game, and the card mix changed a lot (in addition to more than a few cards changing their rules)

Definite meaningful changes to game play should warrant separate entries.
But the tactics change is possibly ONLY big change that introduced new kind of action - "copy opponents tactic card".
Rest of rules changes are very small tweaks.
- reagain action after playing leader.
Some of the tweaks have great IMPACT on strategies - chnage theat you cannot sacrifice units during conflicts and wars, but you an discards cards to boost defence is minor RULES change.
Changing order of some phases of the round - discarding , corruption.
Most of the changes was reversing some of the design choices.
And 3rd edition of Innovation seems to be also minor card balance tweak to powerful cards making them a little bit less powerful.But in can change strategies in the game.
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