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hi

I've just received AH Little Round Top and I was surprised to see that the game comes in a small format (as specified on side of box: AH bookshelf gamette).

I find this format great for bringing it in short holiday weekends where you won't have much room in front of the fireplace and plan to play a game.

I knew about Atlantic Storm, but did Avalon Hill release other games with this gamette format? Please exclude the ASL gamettes which are not the same format.

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I've seen 'Hundred Days Battle', 'Arcola: Battle for Italy',
and 'The Legend of Robin Hood' in the same small box format.

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Banzai, an expansion for Up Front, was released as a gamette, as seen in these images......

Board Game: Banzai


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Not sure that game is gamette size. If it is the same as The General it would be about A4.

I have also seen 100 Days Battles and Napoleon In Italy in the gamette version and they were more like A5.

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AH/Victory Games also did four Bond gamettes in that tiny box size. Not sure if they all hit at the same time or what market segment they were chasing, or if they were just trying to save some $ on a game that could fit into that size box.
 
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Also, Naval War

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Also, Venture
and Titan - the Arena
 
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B-17 was that size? Never owned it, but thought it came in a full sized box...

Another option for the O.P. would be the GDW Series 120 games, which were all pretty good and came in boxes that were only slightly larger.
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Actually, you could be right. I think it just came in a thin box.

Come to think of it, the SL gamettes are also in that category. Full size box, just slim height.
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I can't really help you with Ah gamette titles, but Victory Point Games has at least a dozen or so wargames in boxed format that are roughly same size as an AH gamette. Not sure how easily you can get your hands on VPG stuff where you're at.
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Charles mentioned that in the first response to this thread. People shouldn't overlook it because it isn't a wargame; it's an addictive little game that does a great job of bringing the story to life.
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If memory serves me right, I think that they were all OSG games that were re-released by Avalon Hill. They never repeated the experiment and I have no idea if it was successful or not. Another vote for the GDW Series 120 games with the exception of 1942, which isn't very good.
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thanks for your replies but some mentioned games don't qualify for the "AH bookshelf gamette" (Banzai/Circus maximus/Gladiator/Crescendo of Doom).

I've checked and the format of the box is international B5 which is half A4.

Thanks for the tips on Robin Hood and naval war, I'll try to get them in this format.

Thanks for the tips on the vpg games too, but I'm only looking for AH games, yes we like to play those oldies in the cabin.
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Naval War is not a good game. It's very simple and brainless. Save your money for something else.
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If memory serves me right, I think that they were all OSG games that were re-released by Avalon Hill. They never repeated the experiment and I have no idea if it was successful or not. Another vote for the GDW Series 120 games with the exception of 1942, which isn't very good.
wow AH, since early OSG/GDW/Task Force/etc. were often 'packaged' within smaller zip-loc baggies, with even a smallish 1, if you were "lucky". cool
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Check out this list:
Good Things in Small Packages--The Avalon Hill Bookshelf Gamettes

that was an old AH gamette list.

There was also a 3M gamette list which is where the idea came from:
The 3M Gamettes
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I just took a couple of pictures to help with getting everybody on the same page. The first one shows 3 Avalon Hill boxes. Storm over Arnhem was the standard (for them) AH bookcase size. Circus Maximus was a thinner box, but still the same height and width. That's the size used for a number of suggestions here, e.g. the Squad Leader expansions and Banzai. Battle for Italy is one of the small boxes the O.P. asked about.

From gallery of Sphere


The second picture is a close-up comparing the AH small box with a GDW Series 120 box and a VPG box. The AH is smaller than the others, but not by much.

From gallery of Sphere

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I'll add another picture to the mix. The games on the left are all labeled "gamettes." The games on the right are not.

From gallery of Crito


The confusion is caused by Avalon Hill's use of the "gamette" label in two different ways. On some games, it meant not a full game, but an expansion for an existing game. This applies to Cross of Iron, Crescendo of Doom, and Banzai, which were in the "semi-bookcase" boxes, and even G.I. Anvil of Victory (shown below in someone else's photo), which was in a standard bookcase box.

On other games, "gamette" meant a full game in a very small box. This applies to Naval War, Robin Hood, and several others mentioned above, like Sphere's Battle for Italy.

On the right, Enemy in Sight, Mystic Wood, and Decathlon, are in the semi-bookcase boxes, but they are not labeled "gamettes." A semi-bookcase box alone was not enough for the label.

I also included the James Bond game, which was mentioned above. As seen in the photo, it's in a standard bookcase box. The other VG James Bond products were RPG supplements, and those appear to be in semi-bookcase boxes [oops -- not all of them; some were board games, not RPG supplements -- see the correction below by John Ellsworth].

Bottom line: "gamette" meant either (1) an expansion in a semi- or standard bookcase box or (2) a full game in a very small box.

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And, if you are a collector or simply want more info about AH games, please visit my BGG profile, where you can download the ultimate and complete list of games produced by Avalon Hill and Victory Games.
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AH published a number of games in this format. I have the following:
Little Round Top
Hundred Days Battles
Battle for Italy
Naval War
Legend of Robin Hood
Dilemmas
The Game of Inventions
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Venture
Sleuth

In addition, four James Bond games were published under the Victory Games banner in this format. These were board games, not related to the role playing series that VG also published.
Live and Let Die
Goldfinger
The Man with the Golden Gun
You Only Live Twice

A slightly larger format (definitely thicker, maybe a little wider as well) was used for a couple of titles:
Titan: The Arena
Atlantic Storm

Roberto, I noticed that your excellent list does contain one small error. Nieuchess was originally published by AH and used red and blue pawns on a hex-based board. It also used the old "standard" AH Combat Results Table. Neo Chess was a completely different game originally published by 3M. It used a chessboard and circular, two-sided chess pieces. I don't think an AH edition was ever released, unlike many of the other 3M titles.
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msjells wrote:
AH published a number of games in this format. I have the following:

Sleuth
I've never seen Sleuth in an AH Gamette format. My copy is the 1" Bookcase Box (8-1/2" x 11" x 1"). Might you have a photo?
 
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