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...Spades is the same rank, better known and doesn't require extra cards (much cheaper)?

What does Wizards do for you that Spades doesn't.

And is it really that much better than Oh Hell, to be worth spending the cash?

More groans and laughs, more social perhaps? More satisfying?

Is it a different set of game trade-offs?

 
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If you have $10 to spare, getting Deluxe Wizard is nice for the bidding click-wheels which add an excellent tactile element to the game.

I prefer Wizard to spades because I like games without partnerships.

Oh Hell is fine, but the Jesters and Wizards in the Wizard deck add a new level of chaos and uncertainty that must be played around. The result is, I believe, a lot more swearing - which may or may not be welcome at your table.

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And with the click-wheels you can bid simultaneously which adds a whole new level of fun and evilness.
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mothertruckin wrote:
If you have $10 to spare, getting Deluxe Wizard is nice for the bidding click-wheels which add an excellent tactile element to the game.

I prefer Wizard to spades because I like games without partnerships.

Oh Hell is fine, but the Jesters and Wizards in the Wizard deck add a new level of chaos and uncertainty that must be played around. The result is, I believe, a lot more swearing - which may or may not be welcome at your table.

Wizard Deluxe now comes with (thick) CARDBOARD bidding wheels (no more plastic, no more click, but an extra approximately $10 in cost over the standard "Original" card-deck-only version right now on Amazon).

You can buy a six-pack of bidding wheels separately for $10 on Amazon, and I believe those are still plastic, and buy the base Wizard game for under $7 (the "large index" version even cheaper right now)for a complete separates PLASTIC "deluxe" set at the same price as the cardboard pre-bundled one.

Update: Here's the cheapest version of Original Wizard on Amazon, sold and shipped by Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Wizard-Card-French-English-Translatio... (but still might be worth paying the extra 75 cents for large index).
 
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mothertruckin wrote:
If you have $10 to spare, getting Deluxe Wizard is nice for the bidding click-wheels which add an excellent tactile element to the game.

I prefer Wizard to spades because I like games without partnerships.

Oh Hell is fine, but the Jesters and Wizards in the Wizard deck add a new level of chaos and uncertainty that must be played around. The result is, I believe, a lot more swearing - which may or may not be welcome at your table.

Another advantage of a 60-card Wizard deck that seems to be often cited is that it allows all cards to be in play (final round) for 3, 4, 5 or 6 players, whereas a standard 52-card deck only allows this for 4 players. This may not be so important for some people. If it's not important to you, you can play basically the same game, using aces as Wizards and 2s as Jesters (or Kings as Wizards and aces as Jesters) If you have two or more decks with identical backs, you could modify cards from one one deck and/or the jokers into Wizards and Jesters/Fools (4 of each required). A 78-card tarot nouveau deck could easily be pressed into service, using 4 of the trumps as Wizards and, perhaps, the cavalier (Knight) cards as Jesters or removing the cavaliers and using 8 of the trump cards (1-4 as Jesters, 18-21 as Wizards).
 
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