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Manjula Guneratne
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Just wondering if anyone has any opinions about this game. Haven't heard much buzz about it yet. I am quite interested in this since it's from Alan Moon and I have enjoyed a couple of his games.
Is this a family weight game or does it cater to gamers as well with the new expansions in the box?
And please let me know if it's a good 2p game. That will definitely change my opinion about purchasing the game.
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I like the game, don't consider it too light, but it's not good with two (or even, IMO three) and is best with five or six.
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If they go with the elfenroads rules, it adds money to the game and thus, auctions, earning money on trips to the towns, etc. Not light. Elfenlands basic is more friendly, but it is not TtR weight at all. It has some bad luck moments bewarned, but is short enough to not worry about it: 60 minutes for veterans 4 player game. 2 player is harder to work to visit all places (since it is almost clearly on your part to do so), but less competition to screw it up for you, so player interaction is lessened if you like that.

Remember this is good enough to get Game of the Year in Germany back in 1998, before TtR was even conceived. devil
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It's essentially three games (with three rules sets) in the box. Elfenland is fine for families. Elfenroads/Gold is a rather long, brutal auction based game. Elfensee ... well, I'm curious about that myself, but it appears to be more at the family/Elfenland end.

Graphically it's a step backwards (slightly more difficult on the eyes) ... but Doris was one of the best back in the old days, so no surprise there.
 
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There was a demo copy at GenCon.

ElfenSea has a different map (with more water), some different transportation options at sea (and fewer on land, IIRC). It also has bonuses for reaching the farthest points (from the start). I think it's closer in complexity to Elfenland than Elfenroad.

The sea obstacles are moved to ElfenRoad.
 
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there is always King of the Elves which has the same elfenland/gold abstractly done with only cards and money chits. devil
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qzhdad wrote:
I like the game, don't consider it too light, but it's not good with two (or even, IMO three) and is best with five or six.
Elfenland is perfectly good with two. You simply fold the board in half and visit the ten eastern towns twice, which improves interaction. I don't know whether this works with Elfenroads, though.
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ropearoni4 wrote:

Remember this is good enough to get Game of the Year in Germany back in 1998, before TtR was even conceived. devil
That's not strictly true . TtR is a direct descendent of Santa Fe, which was published in the same year as Elfenroads (1992). It's just that the SF design spawned rather more game spinoffs than Elfenroads possibly could. The short list includes

Santa Fe
Santa Fe Rails
Clippers
10,000 variants of TtR

and arguably

Airlines
Union Pacific
On the Underground (which is much better than TtR IMHO)
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