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Mike Heil
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Do I need the thicker faction punch board add-on? I was a DVM backer and I thought we were getting new faction punch board cards, but I'm confused now.

Are those still coming with the first Kickstarter at the DVM level? Do I need to purchase the $10 dollar add-on? Is that the only way to get a thicker Tcho-Tcho sheet or will that come with the Tcho-Tcho faction?

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This is from the comments on Kickstarter.

Creator Sandy Petersen 35 minutes ago
The thick punchboard cards are a separate add-on that you need to pay for.
Sandy

about 1 hour ago
To be super clear, the "Thick Punchboard Faction Cards" are NOT included within "Upgraded cardstock and errata" are they?
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DVM from the original campaign are still getting their Faction Punch Board Cards, and those include the Errata for Black Goat and Great Cthulhu.

However, it is possible that additional balance changes will be made between now and when the new set of Punch Board Cards for Second Onslaught, and so you might still want to purchase that add-on. For instance, it has been hinted at that Windwalker may be errata'd.
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You are getting the updated thick punchboards for all of the factions except the Tcho-Tchos if you are a DVM backer.

And you'll get the Tcho-Tcho's punchboard if you get their faction in Onslaught Two.
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AdamStarks wrote:

However, it is possible that additional balance changes will be made between now and when the new set of Punch Board Cards for Second Onslaught, and so you might still want to purchase that add-on. For instance, it has been hinted at that Windwalker may be errata'd.
Can this be confirmed? I am a DVM backer but if these are going to be produced after the DVM boards, and thus may include future errata, then I may have to include them in my order.
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bholmes4 wrote:
AdamStarks wrote:

However, it is possible that additional balance changes will be made between now and when the new set of Punch Board Cards for Second Onslaught, and so you might still want to purchase that add-on. For instance, it has been hinted at that Windwalker may be errata'd.
Can this be confirmed? I am a DVM backer but if these are going to be produced after the DVM boards, and thus may include future errata, then I may have to include them in my order.
Me too!
 
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bholmes4 wrote:
AdamStarks wrote:

However, it is possible that additional balance changes will be made between now and when the new set of Punch Board Cards for Second Onslaught, and so you might still want to purchase that add-on. For instance, it has been hinted at that Windwalker may be errata'd.
Can this be confirmed? I am a DVM backer but if these are going to be produced after the DVM boards, and thus may include future errata, then I may have to include them in my order.
Well, the DVM ones are already on their way, so the ones for the new kickstarter are going to be produced after them.

However, the idea that they'll include new errata seems pure speculation until we actually see some new errata.

Cheers,
Graham
 
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therealbuserian wrote:
bholmes4 wrote:
AdamStarks wrote:

However, it is possible that additional balance changes will be made between now and when the new set of Punch Board Cards for Second Onslaught, and so you might still want to purchase that add-on. For instance, it has been hinted at that Windwalker may be errata'd.
Can this be confirmed? I am a DVM backer but if these are going to be produced after the DVM boards, and thus may include future errata, then I may have to include them in my order.
Well, the DVM ones are already on their way, so the ones for the new kickstarter are going to be produced after them.

However, the idea that they'll include new errata seems pure speculation until we actually see some new errata.

Cheers,
Graham
It's been confirmed that Windwalker and Opener will be getting additional errata, and that the OS2 batch of cardboard faction cards will have all present errata represented when they ship. So no, it's not speculation at all.
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Any idea what the changes are? Opener had something to do with neutral GOOs, right? And windwalker?
 
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Wasn't it also confirmed that those changes are on the DVM cards anyway?
 
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Anzati wrote:
Wasn't it also confirmed that those changes are on the DVM cards anyway?
No, theese changes are very recent.
(But also minor)
 
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Nors wrote:
Anzati wrote:
Wasn't it also confirmed that those changes are on the DVM cards anyway?
No, theese changes are very recent.
(But also minor)
So DVM should get the diecuts to have the most upto date versions.
 
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There is another thread about the actual changes

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1471708/there-compilatio...
 
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ZaxxonValdez wrote:
Nors wrote:
Anzati wrote:
Wasn't it also confirmed that those changes are on the DVM cards anyway?
No, theese changes are very recent.
(But also minor)
So DVM should get the diecuts to have the most upto date versions.
Not clear (at least to me). The last I saw from Sandy said that these are identical to the ones DVM backers are already getting. An official clarification is needed. at the moment, this is all rather speculative.

Cheers, Graham
 
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I'm sure it was stated in the unboxing video that all the changes for the expansion cards were also included...at about the 2:20 mark the inclusion of balance changes is mentioned.

http://youtu.be/Soh4aWzJtfk

It's also been mentioned several times in the KS comments that those who backed the previous campaign do not need that add-on set.
 
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Anzati wrote:
I'm sure it was stated in the unboxing video that all the changes for the expansion cards were also included...at about the 2:20 mark the inclusion of balance changes is mentioned.

http://youtu.be/Soh4aWzJtfk

It's also been mentioned several times in the KS comments that those who backed the previous campaign do not need that add-on set.
This is not quite true. Only the Black Goat and Great Cthulhu changes made it into the 2nd Wave from the first Kickstarter. The Opener and Windwalker changes were made after that production run, however, and so if people want those, they will need to get this addon for OS2. However, as of right now, the changes are fairly simple (abilities that get more powerful the more enemy GOOs there are now require them to be Faction GOOs, whereas previously they included Neutral and Indie GOOs), so those updated faction sheets aren't a big deal.
 
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So for only $10 you should get the diecuts to have the most upto date versions of you want.
 
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Stupid question: The upgraded punchboards are only for DVM, not CdG, right?
 
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I believe they are for every original backer who got a copy of CW.
 
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So to clarify, the original upgraded punch boards that are en rout have the green and red faction eratta correct?
I.e cthulhus extra elder sign and black goats dark young boost and location with cultists change.

But the white and purple only faction GOO eratta would not be on them and wed have to buy the upgraded ones in this campaign to get it plus any new eratta that may occur over these coming months.

Is that correct?
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That is the way I understand it!
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Gotcha. Then to be safe I'll pay the extra $10 and get the new boards. Minor eratta or not, I do not want a new player to build their strategy around neutral goos and hibernate for example.

Plus if some major new eratta comes along I want to know I will get it.
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If we get the faction expansions as a part of OS2, will the non-punchboard faction sheets that come with them be errata'd?
 
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Ugh I just wish Sandy or Arthur would clarify this already. We've been asking for days.
 
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I thought they did, but there are so many threads about this now, I don't remember where I read it. I think it was in Ask Sandy 7, though.
 
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