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So recently my 1 year old had to take a ride in an ambulance to the emergency room, where he got to hang out next to a guy wearing handcuffs guarded by a cop.
So we have gotten the ambulance bill, 1200 dollars. 100% of which is not going to be covered on insurance.
Gasp, what? Why is that? Well obviously, now that our insurance costs more, it only makes sense that the deductible is just insanely high.
Haven't gotten the emergency room bill yet, but I am sure that will be at least 1500. 100% of which will NOT be covered.

Thanks Obama for your glorious Obamacare. I am sure it is helping out everyone.

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Well, if it makes you feel any better, the guy in the handcuffs won't have any out-of-pocket expense.
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TheDashi wrote:
So recently my 1 year old had to take a ride in an ambulance to the emergency room, where he got to hang out next to a guy wearing handcuffs guarded by a cop.
So we have gotten the ambulance bill, 1200 dollars. 100% of which is not going to be covered on insurance.
Gasp, what? Why is that? Well obviously, now that our insurance costs more, it only makes sense that the deductible is just insanely high.
Haven't gotten the emergency room bill yet, but I am sure that will be at least 1500. 100% of which will NOT be covered.

Thanks Obama for your glorious Obamacare. I am sure it is helping out everyone.

/facepalm


I'm sorry Dashi...that sucks.

At least he's all better?



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Guess you earned your lesson. Make an appointment and drive to the Dr's office yourself.

Better yet just pray.
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Here's hoping your kid a speedy recovery.
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Guess you earned your lesson. Make an appointment and drive to the Dr's office yourself.

Better yet just pray.


Yep, I sure learned my lesson, since the ambulance TOOK HIM FROM THE DOCTORS OFFICE, to the HOSPITAL.
Fuck yeah I learned my lesson.
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TheDashi wrote:
So recently my 1 year old had to take a ride in an ambulance to the emergency room, where he got to hang out next to a guy wearing handcuffs guarded by a cop.
So we have gotten the ambulance bill, 1200 dollars. 100% of which is not going to be covered on insurance.
Gasp, what? Why is that? Well obviously, now that our insurance costs more, it only makes sense that the deductible is just insanely high.
Haven't gotten the emergency room bill yet, but I am sure that will be at least 1500. 100% of which will NOT be covered.

Thanks Obama for your glorious Obamacare. I am sure it is helping out everyone.

/facepalm


I hope your son is doing all right. I am guessing the hospital in question wasn't large enough to have a separate Peds-ER. I would still communicate your experience to them, and let them know that if they can't isolate an area to make it more peds and family friendly you will seriously consider other EDs whenever possible. This makes an assumption that there is another ED that's reasonable for you to go to, obviously.

I am wondering though, since you've lain this at the feet of Obamacare - what alternate proposal exists where this would have been covered? This wouldn't have been covered under any HSA based plan unless you hit your deductible limit. Are you arguing for a single payer system in place of Obamacare?
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TheDashi wrote:
So recently my 1 year old had to take a ride in an ambulance to the emergency room, where he got to hang out next to a guy wearing handcuffs guarded by a cop.
So we have gotten the ambulance bill, 1200 dollars. 100% of which is not going to be covered on insurance.
Gasp, what? Why is that? Well obviously, now that our insurance costs more, it only makes sense that the deductible is just insanely high.
Haven't gotten the emergency room bill yet, but I am sure that will be at least 1500. 100% of which will NOT be covered.

Thanks Obama for your glorious Obamacare. I am sure it is helping out everyone.

/facepalm


I hope your son is doing all right. I am guessing the hospital in question wasn't large enough to have a separate Peds-ER. I would still communicate your experience to them, and let them know that if they can't isolate an area to make it more peds and family friendly you will seriously consider other EDs whenever possible. This makes an assumption that there is another ED that's reasonable for you to go to, obviously.

I am wondering though, since you've lain this at the feet of Obamacare - what alternate proposal exists where this would have been covered? This wouldn't have been covered under any HSA based plan unless you hit your deductible limit. Are you arguing for a single payer system in place of Obamacare?


You remember the whole, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, promise, which was a blatant lie?
I would have taken that.
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TheDashi wrote:
So recently my 1 year old had to take a ride in an ambulance to the emergency room, where he got to hang out next to a guy wearing handcuffs guarded by a cop.
So we have gotten the ambulance bill, 1200 dollars. 100% of which is not going to be covered on insurance.
Gasp, what? Why is that? Well obviously, now that our insurance costs more, it only makes sense that the deductible is just insanely high.
Haven't gotten the emergency room bill yet, but I am sure that will be at least 1500. 100% of which will NOT be covered.

Thanks Obama for your glorious Obamacare. I am sure it is helping out everyone.

/facepalm


Once you get the bill for either I recommend calling them directly and negotiating down the price. We have been very successful doing this, and you usually can always get them to lower it. Plus the full amount goes to your deductible regardless what you privately negotiate.
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TheDashi wrote:

You remember the whole, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, promise, which was a blatant lie?
I would have taken that.


Wow, you still are stuck on that misconception? The ACA can't force insurance companies to not change their plans. Obama's point was that the ACA would not force you to switch plans. Your insurance company could have dropped your plan if the ACA passed or not.

Yeah, it would have been more accurate for him to say, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, as long as your insurance company still offers your plan, of course, duh."
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TheDashi wrote:

You remember the whole, if you like your plan you can keep your plan, promise, which was a blatant lie?
I would have taken that.


Wow, you still are stuck on that misconception? The ACA can't force insurance companies to not change their plans. Obama's point was that the ACA would not force you to switch plans. You insurance company could have dropped your plan if the ACA passed or not.

Yeah, it would have been more accurate for him to say, "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan, as long as your insurance company still offers your plan, of course, duh."


Sighs......
I would have taken my OLD plan then.
Which I dont have thanks to Obama.
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Saying this isn't the fault of Obama care does kind of miss the point.

Obamacare demands coverage for all (even those who can't afford it) and coverage for pre-existig conditions, however it does not provide enough federal funding to foot the bill for said care, and it does allow insurance companies to shift the burden from themselves to people in the middle class.

From the day Obamacare passed I felt that this was going to be a benefit to the poor (yay!) and to insurance companies (what? - wait, I thought Obama was a socialist) at the expense of the middle class (ffs Obama).

This is why we need single payer and a socialist president, not another crony capitalist "moderate" president.
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Nice to see someone being consistent. He isn't just willing to use the tragedy of others to score political points. He'll use his own too.
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Do you have an HDHP plan?
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Nice to see someone being consistent. He isn't just willing to use the tragedy of others to score political points. He'll use his own too.


Yeah, relaying personal experience to show people what has been done, wow, that should NEVER be done.
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GameCrossing wrote:
Nice to see someone being consistent. He isn't just willing to use the tragedy of others to score political points. He'll use his own too.
Leave it out.
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TheDashi wrote:
GameCrossing wrote:
Nice to see someone being consistent. He isn't just willing to use the tragedy of others to score political points. He'll use his own too.


Yeah, relaying personal experience to show people what has been done, wow, that should NEVER be done.
A question, did your old plan cover ambulance costs?
 
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Hope your kid gets well quick.

Honestly, and obviously this is an everyone's experience across different states is different thing, I haven't personally noticed a huge pre/post-ACA experience. Got hit more or less the same way as you (just sub Ambulance for multiple ER vists).

What're the details on your old vs current plan?
 
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This is why we need single payer and a socialist president, not another crony capitalist "moderate" president.


Single payer would be the single worst thing we could do to our healthcare, and the most anti-liberty. Certainly the most anti-human. No way do I want my healthcare at the mercy of the government.

One hopes you're just joking with "socialist president".....


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I'm sorry about your son, Dashi.

But that said, there have been so many lies told about Obamacare, I am emotionally numb. Unless there is actual evidence that Obamacare is squeezing the middle class, I'm skeptical. And no your story doesn't mean anything because every state implements Obamacare differently. You could be living in a crappy state.
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It sounds like you switched from a PPO/HMO type plan to an HDHP one. If so, did you not know about the deductible? Did you have money in an HSA to cover it?
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I'm sorry about your son, Dashi.

But that said, there have been so many lies told about Obamacare, I am emotionally numb. Unless there is actual evidence that Obamacare is squeezing the middle class, I'm skeptical. And no your story doesn't mean anything because every state implements Obamacare differently. You could be living in a crappy state.


Yeah, personal experience due to the repercussions of government law means nothing.
Whatever.
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TheDashi wrote:
BFoy wrote:
I'm sorry about your son, Dashi.

But that said, there have been so many lies told about Obamacare, I am emotionally numb. Unless there is actual evidence that Obamacare is squeezing the middle class, I'm skeptical. And no your story doesn't mean anything because every state implements Obamacare differently. You could be living in a crappy state.


Yeah, personal experience due to the repercussions of government law means nothing.
Whatever.
Then tell us what the differences between the two plans are, so we can judge.
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Ferretman wrote:

One hopes you're just joking with "socialist president".....


Not this One. I'd like a more socialist President myself, especially when it comes to health care. France has the best health care in the world, we aren't even in the top 20, yet we pay the most. I say start copying the French.

Heck for all the Nuke lovers out there, France has a more robust nuclear power industry than the U.S., we could start taking a look at that also. I'm not on board with it, but Nuke lovers should see alot to like. "Socialist" is a wrongly maligned word,
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