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Rebirth is going to really encourage some jank!
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Seems pretty obvious, but I'm assuming Exchange of Information is "Play only if the runner is tagged. Exchange an an agenda in the runner's score area with an agenda in your score area." Seems solid.
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Rebirth Of The Professor. You just have to find it real quick, but then you got a program suite unlike any other Kate out there!
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Rebirth is also pretty good for Andy.
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Rebirth Of The Professor. You just have to find it real quick, but then you got a program suite unlike any other Kate out there!
Andromeda likes this too.

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Andy was my first thought as well, but without even worrying about PARTICULAR jank, a one-of has a lot of possibilities. You can change your runner once you see the corp's gameplan, for example. If they have lots of barriers, switch to Quetzal. Or based on game state. If you find yourself playing from behind, switch to Ian.

It's an interesting one.

Edit - Obviously, this is all contingent on your faction choice, but it still makes this kind of play possible.
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Delaric wrote:
wut.

How many rules clarifications will Rebirth spawn? (pun intended)
what clarifications are actually needed though?

Professor doesn't auto lose by having an illegal deck if the corp uses cerebral static.


also, Rebirth is pretty terrible for the professor imo. sure, he's got lots of programs, but no influence for events, hardware, or resources is pretty harsh imo.


the best combo i can think of is Andy or Silhouette into pretty much any other crim, Kate, Hayley, or Chaos Theory into Kit for shaper, or Valencia into Whizzard.

the cool thing about Whizzard as the backup is, if for some reason you go up against a deck few assets and lots of operation econ, you can switch to Kim instead.
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Delaric wrote:
Well I don't know what questions are going to come up exactly, but how could they not?
i know that questions are going to come up. my point is that they will all be questions with easy answers.

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What if you install a program as Chaos Theory, then Rebirth into Kate on click 2, do you get your 1c discount on the next program or hardware install? I'm assuming you do, but that's just one possible question.
you don't. that wasn't the first program or hardware you installed that turn, and the board state remembers.
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Delaric wrote:
You know what's going to be really jarring is the Rebirth into the opposite gender (Whizzard -> MaxX)
Why is it more jarring then something like Gabe -> Ken or Valencia -> Maxx?
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Delaric wrote:
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Delaric wrote:
You know what's going to be really jarring is the Rebirth into the opposite gender (Whizzard -> MaxX)
Why is it more jarring then something like Gabe -> Ken or Valencia -> Maxx?
Hey, guys, take the comments LIGHT HEARTEDLY. I'm making a joke about women transforming into men etc mid-game. It's one thing to take your glasses off as Exile and become Nasir, it's another to thematically become Kate when you started as Professor.
Just because it was a "joke" doesn't make it any less distasteful.
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Delaric wrote:
Bayushi_Oliveira wrote:
Delaric wrote:
You know what's going to be really jarring is the Rebirth into the opposite gender (Whizzard -> MaxX)
Why is it more jarring then something like Gabe -> Ken or Valencia -> Maxx?
Hey, guys, take the comments LIGHT HEARTEDLY. I'm making a joke about women transforming into men etc mid-game. It's one thing to take your glasses off as Exile and become Nasir, it's another to thematically become Kate when you started as Professor.
Why make a joke of it?
Reincarnation, which this card seems to pointing at, is a central belief of Hinduism and happens irrespective of the sex of the person startds the process as and what sex you end up being.
I would expect Hinduism to have a strong influence on a cycle set in India.
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Delaric wrote:
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Well I don't know what questions are going to come up exactly, but how could they not?
i know that questions are going to come up. my point is that they will all be questions with easy answers.

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What if you install a program as Chaos Theory, then Rebirth into Kate on click 2, do you get your 1c discount on the next program or hardware install? I'm assuming you do, but that's just one possible question.
you don't. that wasn't the first program or hardware you installed that turn, and the board state remembers.
Well that's a question I would have had then! I can't remember all the details of every interaction even though I see rules clarifications all the time.

I'm sure there will be answers, I just made a comment and you should relaaaaaxxx a bit...
um ok. you made a comment, and i was just continuing the conversation and feel pretty relaxed about it (or at least i did anyway)

i mean i am freaking out over the 17 thousand words i have due next week for school, and i handle that by procrastinating here on the internet, but this line of discussion isn't stressing me out at all. in fact, it's actually helping to relax me.

i wasn't criticising you or anything, just adding to the conversation and answering your question.
 
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So I was thinking I could run Andromeda or Ken, but with my Iain deck and get some extra influence. Since I run Logos, I can easily get the ID switch to Iain after getting a burst start. This seems like one of the more sane uses of it, that I can build a deck around.

I think it could also work to switch between Whizzard and Kim depending on if your opponent has an asset deck.

Could work well with the new criminal ID too, face check safely early game, then switch to Iain or Gabe depending on how things go.
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Yep, I'm seeing Rebirth wit Logos being a crim thing. Would other runners import Logos (are there new tutors that I don't remember? I've been a bit out of it)
 
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Tuism wrote:
Yep, I'm seeing Rebirth wit Logos being a crim thing. Would other runners import Logos (are there new tutors that I don't remember? I've been a bit out of it)
only tutor i can think of off the top of my head is for corp, a neutral operation that costs 4, name a card, pull all copies of that card from R&D and put into HQ

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Exchange of Information is clearly switching an agenda in your score area with one from the runners area. Seems really good if you switch a 1 pointer with a 3 pointer.

Already spoiled in the draft spoilers, but I am most excited about The Turning Wheel, as it gives criminal much easier access to R&D multi-access, and rewards running lots, and can't be purged.
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Exchange of Information is clearly switching an agenda in your score area with one from the runners area. Seems really good if you switch a 1 pointer with a 3 pointer.

Already spoiled in the draft spoilers, but I am most excited about The Turning Wheel, as it gives criminal much easier access to R&D multi-access, and rewards running lots, and can't be purged.
Corp got their own Turntable

Turning Wheel is ace, I can see a resurgence of Gabe decks hot on the back of that. I could see myself paying the inf in Adam too, considering how hot you pound HQ already early game.
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CommissarFeesh wrote:
Kamakaze wrote:
Exchange of Information is clearly switching an agenda in your score area with one from the runners area. Seems really good if you switch a 1 pointer with a 3 pointer.

Already spoiled in the draft spoilers, but I am most excited about The Turning Wheel, as it gives criminal much easier access to R&D multi-access, and rewards running lots, and can't be purged.
Corp got their own Turntable

Turning Wheel is ace, I can see a resurgence of Gabe decks hot on the back of that. I could see myself paying the inf in Adam too, considering how hot you pound HQ already early game.
I honestly can't think of a single runner who doesn't like Turning Wheel except maybe DLR
 
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CommissarFeesh wrote:
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Exchange of Information is clearly switching an agenda in your score area with one from the runners area. Seems really good if you switch a 1 pointer with a 3 pointer.

Already spoiled in the draft spoilers, but I am most excited about The Turning Wheel, as it gives criminal much easier access to R&D multi-access, and rewards running lots, and can't be purged.
Corp got their own Turntable

Turning Wheel is ace, I can see a resurgence of Gabe decks hot on the back of that. I could see myself paying the inf in Adam too, considering how hot you pound HQ already early game.
I honestly can't think of a single runner who doesn't like Turning Wheel except maybe DLR
I think its best in decks that want to run a lot, ideally once per turn or more, and not every deck does that. Some decks are more passive, or go for remote sniping.
 
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Kamakaze wrote:
Exchange of Information is clearly switching an agenda in your score area with one from the runners area. Seems really good if you switch a 1 pointer with a 3 pointer.
Score a 15 Minutes, switch it with whatever the runner has stolen, then take it back.
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Rebirth. My first thought (and looks like I'm not alone) was to get more influence with an Ian/Logos deck. That seems like a pretty cool thing. Andy -> Ian seems pretty strong, and with Logos not all that hard to pull off on paper.
 
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