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The last line of our national anthem goes:

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

These are not empty words. The whole world respects America's bravery. Especially our bravery in fighting for the freedoms, we hold dear.

In the past, when the US has been attacked, we have stood tall and declared that our attackers will never take away our Freedoms and then they have felt our wrath!

Last week terrorists killed over 120 innocent people in France and now many US political leaders are trying to appease the terrorists!!! South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is a good example of that. Before the attack she was ready to accept refugees, after the attack, she isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11...

Unfortunately, she isn't the only one! Cowardly arguments are coming out of the mouths of many politicians. They are disgusting and un-American. If a politician was willing to accept refugees before the attack, changing course and refusing them because of a terrorist attack is nothing less than appeasement. Why are we putting up with this? Why isn't there an outcry!
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With Trump, the GOP Chickens have come home to roost. Fear gets out the votes. But building their voter base on fear and ignorance whilst using talk radio and echo chambers to whip up xenophobic frenzies have created a monster. Now the GOP business elites don't want a hateful Populist-Fascist candidate, but too late.* Too late for Iowa and NH at least. Maybe the GOP will split and we can have 3 or 4 parties in the US again.

*Or they could bypass the voters and go back to the Kennedy/Nixon model of backroom party dealing.
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BFoy wrote:
Last week terrorists killed over 120 innocent people in France and now many US political leaders are trying to appease the terrorists!!! South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is a good example of that. Before the attack she was ready to accept refugees, after the attack, she isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11...

Unfortunately, she isn't the only one! Cowardly arguments are coming out of the mouths of many politicians. They are disgusting and un-American. If a politician was willing to accept refugees before the attack, changing course and refusing them because of a terrorist attack is nothing less than appeasement. Why are we putting up with this? Why isn't there an outcry!

So you're saying the terrorists attacked Paris to try to get the US to reject Syrian refugees? Have the terrorists stated that was their purpose?

In any case, the governors want to reject refugees because they see them as a security risk - some of them might be future terrorists. I disagree with their reasoning, but that's what they are saying.

It seems to me the refugees hate ISIS and terrorists more than anyone. And would be glad to report suspicious people in their midst to the FBI if we gave them the chance.
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Last week terrorists killed over 120 innocent people in France and now many US political leaders are trying to appease the terrorists!!! South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is a good example of that. Before the attack she was ready to accept refugees, after the attack, she isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11...

Unfortunately, she isn't the only one! Cowardly arguments are coming out of the mouths of many politicians. They are disgusting and un-American. If a politician was willing to accept refugees before the attack, changing course and refusing them because of a terrorist attack is nothing less than appeasement. Why are we putting up with this? Why isn't there an outcry!

So you're saying the terrorists attacked Paris to try to get the US to reject Syrian refugees? Have the terrorists stated that was their purpose?

In any case, the governors want to reject refugees because they see them as a security risk - some of them might be future terrorists. I disagree with their reasoning, but that's what they are saying.

It seems to me the refugees hate ISIS and terrorists more than anyone. And would be glad to report suspicious people in their midst to the FBI if we gave them the chance.
Actually yes, I can believe that ISIS could be using this in part to create division and suspicion (as well as resentment). In fact the refugee crisis may act as a better recruiting tool than all the bombs the Americans can drop.
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You traded freedoms for security after 9/11 and you'll do it again. Just like every other country.


It is possible that after 9/11 our laws were too focused on improving security and infringed upon our personal freedoms. But the rest of what you are saying is crazy.
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BFoy wrote:
In the past, when the US has been attacked, we have stood tall and declared that our attackers will never take away our Freedoms and then they have felt our wrath!


Oh really ? try taking a kids snow globe onto an airplane without removing your shoes.

you gave up your freedoms long ago, hell one school shooting and all you leftists are ready to throw in the towel on the 2nd amendment.

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AdamTracey wrote:
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Why isn't there an outcry!

Because they are just empty words. It's just a song. Despite what you seem to believe, nobody outside the US thinks you are exceptionally brave. You traded freedoms for security after 9/11 and you'll do it again. Just like every other country.


I hate to have to be the one to point it out, but I think you missed just a *TON* of irony in the OP.
 
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In the past, when the US has been attacked, we have stood tall and declared that our attackers will never take away our Freedoms and then they have felt our wrath!


Oh really ? try taking a kids snow globe onto an airplane without removing your shoes.

you gave up your freedoms long ago, hell one school shooting and all you leftists are ready to throw in the towel on the 2nd amendment.

There has only been one school shooting?
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you gave up your freedoms long ago, hell one school shooting and all you leftists are ready to throw in the towel on the 2nd amendment.

just because one or two gun owners are crazy mass murderers doesnt mean all of them are
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BFoy wrote:
If a politician was willing to accept refugees before the attack, changing course and refusing them because of a terrorist attack is nothing less than appeasement.


With a massive side order of pandering.
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Nothing to worry about...
When the poopy hits the fan someone will give you a weapon and tell you to follow so-and-so.
Probably a hundred Americans die in Car wrecks every day, and perhaps ten thousand die from other things every day.
What's really bothersome is that here you've got people living in Paris of all places, and they're running around shooting and exploding bombs. Gawd, if I lived in Paris and even had to commute from my Muslim apartment block to get to the Place de Concorde, that is the last thing I would do.
 
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By definition, people who want to flee the Islamic State are enemies of the IS. Now, IS' attack has succeeded in harming its enemies by effectively denying them safe haven in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

Congratulations, governors, for handing IS this victory through your ignorance and cowardice.
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BFoy wrote:
The last line of our national anthem goes:

O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

These are not empty words. The whole world respects America's bravery. Especially our bravery in fighting for the freedoms, we hold dear.

In the past, when the US has been attacked, we have stood tall and declared that our attackers will never take away our Freedoms and then they have felt our wrath!

Last week terrorists killed over 120 innocent people in France and now many US political leaders are trying to appease the terrorists!!! South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is a good example of that. Before the attack she was ready to accept refugees, after the attack, she isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11...

Unfortunately, she isn't the only one! Cowardly arguments are coming out of the mouths of many politicians. They are disgusting and un-American. If a politician was willing to accept refugees before the attack, changing course and refusing them because of a terrorist attack is nothing less than appeasement. Why are we putting up with this? Why isn't there an outcry!


I will not be lectured by a leftist pansy on bravery or honor. You have neither. You are the first in line to take away rights from law abiding citizens, and otherwise undermine liberty.

Take your lecture and every dumb fuck who thumbed it to your liberal pansy safe zone in Cuba.

And later we awkwardly find out that the OP is a veteran and Koldfoot is a draft dodger...whistle
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windsagio wrote:
AdamTracey wrote:
BFoy wrote:
Why isn't there an outcry!

Because they are just empty words. It's just a song. Despite what you seem to believe, nobody outside the US thinks you are exceptionally brave. You traded freedoms for security after 9/11 and you'll do it again. Just like every other country.


I hate to have to be the one to point it out, but I think you missed just a *TON* of irony in the OP.


Nonono, I have been lurking in RSP for years now and can assure you there is no irony here. None. Nada. Sarcasm, yes, but none of that european stuff.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
toku42 wrote:
By definition, people who want to flee the Islamic State are enemies of the IS. Now, IS' attack has succeeded in harming its enemies by effectively denying them safe haven in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

Congratulations, governors, for handing IS this victory through your ignorance and cowardice.


Damn definitions, and ignorance. 80% of the "refugees" are not refugees by any measure. They are economic migrants using the war as cover, and most aren't even from Syria, nor any war zone.


man, everyone was gonna let this pass without a [#citation needed] ?
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windsagio wrote:
Koldfoot wrote:
toku42 wrote:
By definition, people who want to flee the Islamic State are enemies of the IS. Now, IS' attack has succeeded in harming its enemies by effectively denying them safe haven in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

Congratulations, governors, for handing IS this victory through your ignorance and cowardice.


Damn definitions, and ignorance. 80% of the "refugees" are not refugees by any measure. They are economic migrants using the war as cover, and most aren't even from Syria, nor any war zone.


man, everyone was gonna let this pass without a [#citation needed] ?

what use is that? I don't think "his ass" is that good of a source.
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windsagio wrote:
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toku42 wrote:
By definition, people who want to flee the Islamic State are enemies of the IS. Now, IS' attack has succeeded in harming its enemies by effectively denying them safe haven in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

Congratulations, governors, for handing IS this victory through your ignorance and cowardice.


Damn definitions, and ignorance. 80% of the "refugees" are not refugees by any measure. They are economic migrants using the war as cover, and most aren't even from Syria, nor any war zone.


man, everyone was gonna let this pass without a [#citation needed] ?

what use is that? I don't think "his ass" is that good of a source.
I;d say it's pretty leshit.
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France gets attacked by terrorists not 5 days ago, today vows to take in 30,000 Syrian Refugees.

And here is my Governor vowing to stop all refugee's cause "people are scared".

Fucking cowards.

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Koldfoot wrote:
toku42 wrote:
By definition, people who want to flee the Islamic State are enemies of the IS. Now, IS' attack has succeeded in harming its enemies by effectively denying them safe haven in one of the greatest countries on the planet.

Congratulations, governors, for handing IS this victory through your ignorance and cowardice.


Damn definitions, and ignorance. 80% of the "refugees" are not refugees by any measure. They are economic migrants using the war as cover, and most aren't even from Syria, nor any war zone.


man, everyone was gonna let this pass without a [#citation needed] ?

koldfoot is like the demented grand aunt at family gatherings - just let her ramble on she will have forgotten about her own nonsense soon
 
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France gets attacked by terrorists not 5 days ago, today vows to take in 30,000 Syrian Refugees.

And here is my Governor vowing to stop all refugee's cause "people are scared".

Fucking cowards.

Burger munching bed wetters.
 
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This thread is what ISIS wants.
Well then you can defeat them by whinging to your governor and telling him not to surrender to fear.
 
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This thread is what ISIS wants.


YOU are what ISIS wants. Congratulations.
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