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One of the top two dilemmas a wargamer faces is whether to open their box by gripping the top and bottom of the "lid" or by gripping the right and left sides. Some say the top and bottom because reasons. While others say the right and left for other reasons. If a box is printed in a "portrait" format, the the right and left sides are longer and flex a little easier to get your fingers into the gap. But if the box is printed "landscape" then the top and bottom edges are longer.

Square boxes are just horrible because they produce a conundrum that for some is easily solved and for others may never be.

So which are you? A dinosaur who lifts from the top/bottom or a hipster who lifts from the right/left? Or are you a desperado, up on your fence, lifting from whichever side is longest?

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Yes, this is all in fun.
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I find repeatedly lifting lids with with either of these outmoded techniques can flex the sides of the lid and lead to bowing, warping, and godless communism. For this very reason, I use the L-hand double corner grasp method.
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I find repeatedly lifting lids with with either of these outmoded techniques can flex the sides of the lid and lead to bowing, warping, and godless communism. For this very reason, I use the L-hand double corner grasp method.


Radical!

The method and you.
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Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.
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eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.

Solves the need for trays or bags!

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eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.

And a good way to distribute the paradropped units in It Never Snows!
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Definitely top-right and bottom-left CORNER technique; then when necessary switch to top-left and bottom-right; repeat.

Must be certified first.
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Eric Brosius wrote:
eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.

And a good way to distribute the paradropped units in It Never Snows!


You're going to laugh, but in one tabletop wargame I played we actually used pieces of paper dropped from a couple of feet above the table to simulate the scattered para-drops in an Arnhem game.
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The problem is incompetent designers and terrible rulebook editing.

How can it be a complete game if they haven't included rules on how to open the box?

I blame it on KickStarter.
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eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.

solves the need for trays or bags!


Trays ? Bags ? - what newfangled things are those ? If Avalon Hill had intended us to use bags they would have provided them in the box.
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Game box? What game box? I throw everything into a 2 gallon zip lock bag, unsorted loose counters and all, then throw the bag into a Rubber Maid tote with dozens of other bags. If a game is in a series, the whole series goes into one bag! Then I use a vacuum cleaner to suck all the air out of the bag so the game appears to be freeze-dried until I need to play it.

Box hits the trash the day it comes in the house!

This way I don't have to have a geek auction every couple of years because I'm running out of space.


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And whose idea was it to list the contents on the outside of the box? When I pay good money for a game, I don't need spoilers.

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Boy there has been some wonderful, ingenious and imaginative methods described here. They all show a high degree of restraint. Not only do I aggressively rip off the shrink wrap, I also rip right through the front of the game box to access the game. Now, I never throw the box out in the trash. I'm much more responsible than that and put the box in the local recycling system.
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Vimy145 wrote:
Boy there has been some wonderful, ingenious and imaginative methods described here. They all show a high degree of restraint. Not only do I aggressively rip off the shrink wrap, I also rip right through the front of the game box to access the game. Now, I never throw the box out in the trash. I'm much more responsible than that and put the box in the local recycling system.


Often, I just eat the box's top. zombie
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licinius wrote:
Vimy145 wrote:
Boy there has been some wonderful, ingenious and imaginative methods described here. They all show a high degree of restraint. Not only do I aggressively rip off the shrink wrap, I also rip right through the front of the game box to access the game. Now, I never throw the box out in the trash. I'm much more responsible than that and put the box in the local recycling system.


Often, I just eat the box's top. zombie


An excellent source of roughage. Good thinking, I'm sure a little bit of Frank's Hot Sauce hits the spot too.
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I find if I compress the top and bottom of the box will pulling up on the left and right side I can create flaps that make it easier to remove the box. As a positive it can now slide left and right.

Also it eliminates the embarrassing box fart.
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often wrote:
I find if I compress the top and bottom of the box will pulling up on the left and right side I can create flaps that make it easier to remove the box. As a positive it can now slide left and right.

Also it eliminates the embarrassing box fart.


Yaquinto did just this, with their famous "Disk/Record" flat boxes!
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Using a variation on the Five Finger Death Punch, I simply reach through the box top to access the game.
Then I do the same to my opponent.
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I guess I'm just a desperado.

often wrote:
Also it eliminates the embarrassing box fart.

Around here those are drawn out, savored, and blamed on the kid. devil
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often wrote:

Also it eliminates the embarrassing box fart.


This happens mainly with huge "Monster Game" boxes.

Must mean something... gulp
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eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.


Yep, that's the way my son opens boxes (22 months).
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Tomcat1304 wrote:
eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.


Yep, that's the way my son opens boxes (22 months).


Mine is still doing that at 5.
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I toss the entire game box into the air before me, and as it descends I shred the box lid to ribbons with a matched pair of flashing Ginsu knives.

Then I piss on the mess and demand a refund. Usually.
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Pinetree wrote:
Tomcat1304 wrote:
eddy_sterckx wrote:
Just hold the lid and vigorously shake the box up and down and the bottom part will fall out in no time. You could do this over a table, but frankly that's overkill - you've got a floor - use it. An additional advantage of this method is that you'll get a nice spread of your components too, which facilitates identifying each single piece in one quick visual scan.


Yep, that's the way my son opens boxes (22 months).


Mine is still doing that at 5.


So nothing changes, just the boxes get bigger? Hmmm.

Maybe we should name that behaviour "Sterckxing" as Eddy is the first to describe it precisely.
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Oh, I can seriously see someone designing a pneumatic box lid lifter which applies equal pressure to all sides at the same time ensuring no damage is caused to box or components.

Corner cutters, Plano boxes, plastic sleeves, pneumatic lid lifter, watch this space!
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