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I noticed last night that CSI has increased their pricing on upcoming LCG products from Fantasy Flight.

War Packs for Conquest were $9.49, now $11.29
Deluxe Boxes for Conquest were $18.99, now $22.49

I have not checked other non-LCG FFG products for increases, these just stood out to me because I've bought so many LCG products through CSI.

The prices only seem to be on pre-order future releases, all currently available products are still priced at the old rates, this is true across the entire LCG family.

Could this be a telegraphing of potential pricing bumps due to the announcement made by Asmodee North America, or just a coincidence.

edit: To be 100% clear. I don't have a problem with the price increases (at all), nor is this thread me complaining about them (at all). I just noticed it and wanted to see what others thought.
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T.I.M.E Stories: A Prophecy of Dragons is $22.49 (25% off)

I've run across quite a few pre-orders at that discount level, so I'm pretty sure the ANA agreement will be 25% discounts at approved online retailers.
 
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T.I.M.E Stories: A Prophecy of Dragons is $22.49 (25% off)

I've run across quite a few pre-orders at that discount level, so I'm pretty sure the ANA agreement will be 25% discounts at approved online retailers.


Yes, that too would be an increase from previous pricing. The Marcy Case was $20.99 from CSI.
 
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jmathias wrote:
RichardU wrote:
T.I.M.E Stories: A Prophecy of Dragons is $22.49 (25% off)

I've run across quite a few pre-orders at that discount level, so I'm pretty sure the ANA agreement will be 25% discounts at approved online retailers.


Yes, that too would be an increase from previous pricing. The Marcy Case was $20.99 from CSI.


Marcy Case is $19.99, so ANA is effectively increasing the end price to consumers by 12.5%. http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/217631
 
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MM has followed as well. Looks like ANA is price fixing at 25% max off for online stores going forward. It's not on existing stock, unless they are changing it as I am writing this. All pre-orders for Asmodee are 25% off only.
 
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RichardU wrote:
jmathias wrote:
RichardU wrote:
T.I.M.E Stories: A Prophecy of Dragons is $22.49 (25% off)

I've run across quite a few pre-orders at that discount level, so I'm pretty sure the ANA agreement will be 25% discounts at approved online retailers.


Yes, that too would be an increase from previous pricing. The Marcy Case was $20.99 from CSI.


Marcy Case is $19.99, so ANA is effectively increasing the end price to consumers by 12.5%. http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/217631


I paid $20.99 for the Marcy Case in November 2015.
 
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For those that haven't seen it, this article may be of interest, and likely touches on what is happening.

https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/49015/starting-2016-asmod...
 
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25% was the target percent I thought they would aim for, so I'm not surprised.
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Paying an additional 12.5% on some of my cheap online board games?

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Meanwhile, Cardhaus remains the same price. Obvious conclusion is obvious. Now if you gentlemen will excuse me, I have pressing business...

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tumorous wrote:
Paying an additional 12.5% on some of my cheap online board games?



This scene is where Lucas tossed the crumpled $5 bill in my face as he left the room. Leaving me cold, dirty, and confused.
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I'll just continue purchasing my LCG packs from a FLGS - seems to have worked well thus far.
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tumorous wrote:
Paying an additional 12.5% on some of my cheap online board games?


I have no issue with the higher costs.
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I'll just continue purchasing my LCG packs from a FLGS - seems to have worked well thus far.


Then you can pay even more!

But still those are small potatoes... it's the bigger games where the LGS is overpriced enough to matter.
 
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Awesome I was just thinking I hadnt seen a "price gouging" thread in awhile.

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jmathias wrote:
I noticed last night that CSI has increased their pricing on upcoming LCG products from Fantasy Flight.

War Packs for Conquest were $9.49, now $11.29
Deluxe Boxes for Conquest were $18.99, now $22.49

I have not checked other non-LCG FFG products for increases, these just stood out to me because I've bought so many LCG products through CSI.

The prices only seem to be on pre-order future releases, all currently available products are still priced at the old rates, this is true across the entire LCG family.

Could this be a telegraphing of potential pricing bumps due to the announcement made by Asmodee North America, or just a coincidence.


For the record, this change took place about the same time as the "clarification" from ANA, weeks ago. I was wondering if they would bump prices across the board come the new year, but fortunately the restock of the new edition GoT Card Game is still at its full discount, as are existing X-Wing minis and so on. Given likely release dates on some of the preorder items, I'm not really certain what's going on. Does the new pricing agreement only apply to items released in 2016 and beyond? Does it apply across the board but not take affect until April 1, but etailers are preparing consumers now and milking a little extra profit from items that come out earlier?
 
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I remember reading on one of those "clarifications" that Asmodee said they were not going to put a price cap on games. If that is true, my guess is that the wholesale price retailers have to pay to the distributors (passed down from the company) has increased.

As much as I groaned at seeing the higher prices, I don't fault retailers if they have to increase the retail prices to meet their profit margin to make up for the increased prices they have to pay to acquire the games in the first place.

That would explain why existing stock prices are unchanged while the newer items are more expensive.
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I too have no problem with the increase in cost. Please charge me more.
 
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jmathias wrote:
tumorous wrote:
Paying an additional 12.5% on some of my cheap online board games?


I have no issue with the higher costs.


Great! I'll send you the bill of the difference so I can keep enjoying the company's games.

Such a generous guy looking out for me like that.

Real class act.
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I was thinking of imposing a $5/game "fellow BGGer" fee on all CSI and MM orders I read about...

Invoices will be going out by GM shortly.

Thank you for your purchase!
 
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Star Wars Rebellion just jumped $20. Officially priced out of my range.
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secoAce wrote:
I remember reading on one of those "clarifications" that Asmodee said they were not going to put a price cap on games. If that is true, my guess is that the wholesale price retailers have to pay to the distributors (passed down from the company) has increased.

As much as I groaned at seeing the higher prices, I don't fault retailers if they have to increase the retail prices to meet their profit margin to make up for the increased prices they have to pay to acquire the games in the first place.

That would explain why existing stock prices are unchanged while the newer items are more expensive.


You're missing the point though.

Now that ANA has accumulated so much gaming IP....they're effectively price fixing.

They are publicly stating that it's to protect Brick & Mortar stores from predatory online pricing, but the reality is that all retailers whether Brick & Mortar or online are going to feel the pinch of increased costs...which will be passed on the consumer.

In short, they're padding their wallets because they now effectively control enough to do so without concern for consumer backlash because ... well ... they are the industry at this point for a large number of popular titles. The increase revenue will, in turn, be used to further consolidate the industry and further "help."

I get that they are a business. I get that they exist to make money. What I dislike is the lie that this is about ANYTHING more than simply lining their pockets.

Thankfully ... I'm primarily a wargamer and our publishers haven't caved this garbage....yet...
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gamesontables wrote:
secoAce wrote:
I remember reading on one of those "clarifications" that Asmodee said they were not going to put a price cap on games. If that is true, my guess is that the wholesale price retailers have to pay to the distributors (passed down from the company) has increased.

As much as I groaned at seeing the higher prices, I don't fault retailers if they have to increase the retail prices to meet their profit margin to make up for the increased prices they have to pay to acquire the games in the first place.

That would explain why existing stock prices are unchanged while the newer items are more expensive.


You're missing the point though.

Now that ANA has accumulated so much gaming IP....they're effectively price fixing.

They are publicly stating that it's to protect Brick & Mortar stores from predatory online pricing, but the reality is that all retailers whether Brick & Mortar or online are going to feel the pinch of increased costs...which will be passed on the consumer.

In short, they're padding their wallets because they now effectively control enough to do so without concern for consumer backlash because ... well ... they are the industry at this point for a large number of popular titles. The increase revenue will, in turn, be used to further consolidate the industry and further "help."

I get that they are a business. I get that they exist to make money. What I dislike is the lie that this is about ANYTHING more than simply lining their pockets.

Thankfully ... I'm primarily a wargamer and our publishers haven't caved this garbage....yet...


Unless you know something I don't, I don't think you understand what has changed and what hasn't. There were no increased costs for B&M retailers. Distributors are only charging OLGSs more to create a more even playing field.
 
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