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josh werrmann
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Simply put, I am enthralled with the concept of playing games that invoke the concept of a smaller group defending from a fortified position versus a much larger group assaulting that position. In StarCraft for example, I always loved carefully setting up siege tanks and marine bunkers, and waiting for an onslaught of zerg (I know it's a video game, please forgive the reference). For a fantasy reference, think the battle of Helm's deep (LotR), or the siege of Gondor. I am reaching out to the community to get recommendations for boardgames or wargames, OR games that have great SCENARIOS within them that embody this concept. Some games I have on my buy list already:

Stronghold (2nd edition)

Zulus on the Ramparts!

And I am also thinking from a historical standpoint, playing as the soviet forces in the battle of Kursk versus the German "pincer" would be fun, therefore the upcoming second edition of this:

Conflict of Heroes: Storms of Steel! – Kursk 1943

I have also heard great things about
The Siege of Jerusalem (Third Edition)

but the theme of Hebrews vs Romans seems less appealing than say WW2, although not a deal killer if the siege is really good, the price and out of print status may be a deal killer though. I have been considering combat commander: Europe recently, but know very little about the game or if it contains any such scenarios.
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Dien Bien Phu: The Final Gamble

Circle of Fire: The Siege of Cholm, 1942

Storm over Arnhem
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B-Sieged: Sons of the Abyss

Dragon Rage

The Convicted and the new version The Exiled: Siege
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Caesar: Epic Battle of Alesia is a good one and more affordable than The Siege of Jerusalem (Third Edition). I would pass on The Siege of Alesia unless you want to learn
(or already know) the GBOH system.
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Project: ELITE gives you 'the swarm is upon us' starship troopers feel.
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There is also the S&T game, The Siege of Constantinople

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This gives you both - a siege defense against overwhelming odds (60,000 Turks v 500 Knights of St John: Knights of Justice: The Siege of Malta, 1565.

I'm just awaiting the delivery of a copy.

Or there's this on the same topic available for pre-order from Legion Wargames by a designer I know well (me devil): Waning Crescent, Shattered Cross.



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Related to Zulus is Victoria Cross and Victoria Cross II. The original game is a block game with Rorkes Drift. The 2nd edition uses counters instead of blocks, and includes the battle of Isandlwana.
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Don't know about overwhelming numbers, but here is a 4-pack of siege games:

The Art of Siege

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There is a Print 'n' Play game coming out about the unique battle around Castle Itter. As yet I think it is unnamed. Here is an image of the map.


This is a WW2 fight where German soldiers fought alongside American soldiers against the SS attackers. It is a solo game and looks pretty awesome.

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Alamo.

A nice little historical block game. Plays in a few hours.

But I miss Davy Crockett as a single visible counter running on the walls. Not an anonymous block hiding.

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Keep Up The Fire! is a State of Siege game about the siege of the Foreign Legations in Peking during the Boxer Rebellion. It's a fascinating hisotrical period.
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Outpost Gamma is a SF take on this situation you might like.
It's an older game but a free PnP version is available.

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I've played the heck out of 1st edition Stronghold, I highlyrecommend the new edition. The game is entirely built around the theme you are looking for.
 
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On a lighter note, The Awful Green Things From Outer Space.
 
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Not a traditional siege, exactly, but RAF: The Battle of Britain 1940 is good, primarily as solo RAF player.

+1 for Caesar: Epic Battle of Alesia.
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Siege for Cry Havoc.

Medieval skirmish, available for download.
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Caesar at Alesia. has it all,
Tactical doughnut, 260,000 vs 60,000.
Tech advantage for defenders (parapets, outer works, archers, forts, leaders)
Hidden off board movement for attacker.
Top notch components for it's day, mounted map board.
One victory condition, Get the Gaul leader off the board for a Gaul win, or keep him on the map (or eliminate the piece) for a Roman win.
Can set up and play the 1st assault period and at a later setting you can start the 2nd assault period when you can meet again as all surviving units are set up again.
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LordJesse wrote:


This. The situation is really interesting since the Romans have enemies both inside and outside the siege that they have to deal with. It is not difficult but it will take a while to play to completion. It is the best siege game that I have played.

There is an old siege game in an issue of The Wargamer magazine called Knights of Justice: The Siege of Malta, 1565 which I quite enjoyed. It is a bit more involved since it is not only a siege but an amphibious landing on the island but I thought it was well done.
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Jvsquare wrote:
On a fantasy note The Battle of Helm's Deep
 
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For WWII Eastern Front sieges, there's White Death (tough to find) and Circle of Fire: The Siege of Cholm, 1942.
 
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kentreuber wrote:
Related to Zulus is Victoria Cross and Victoria Cross II. The original game is a block game with Rorkes Drift. The 2nd edition uses counters instead of blocks, and includes the battle of Isandlwana.


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Best one I've played in the past half decade. Unbelievable odds against the British penned up in the puny fortifications against the massive French-Spanish amphibious expeditionary force. Yet, once the system is cracked, it's a VERY BALANCED game and usually comes right down to the wire!
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whatambush wrote:
There is a Print 'n' Play game coming out about the unique battle around Castle Itter. As yet I think it is unnamed. Here is an image of the map.


This is a WW2 fight where German soldiers fought alongside American soldiers against the SS attackers. It is a solo game and looks pretty awesome.



Thanks for the mention. I'll be tracking the development of the game in this thread. It's very much a work in progress, so I'd love to get some feedback on what I've posted so far.
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