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Noximilien l’horloger
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Hi folks,

Just a quick question. I'd consider myself and my group to be experienced gamers and have games such as the Pandemic, Zombicide, Sentinels of the Multiverse series, Letters from Whitechapel, BSG as well as X-Wing, Armada, Imperial Assault and Netrunner between us, to name but a few in our shared collection. Interestingly, we've no Euro style games.

I've recently been looking into Ticket to Ride (reading reviews, looking at Tabletop etc) and I notice it's recommended as a good game for beginners and as a gateway game.

Can anyone recommend it or have any opinions on whether it's worth picking up for a group of more experienced gamers?

Thanks in advance for any and all input
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Yes, it is a fun game for all levels of gamers.
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Orangemoose wrote:
Yes, it is a fun game for all levels of gamers.


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I use to play all the old Avalon Hill Box games when I was younger. Battletech, AD&D and other games like those. I love Ticket to Ride. Great game to have fun and laugh. I have a lot of the extra maps too. The newest map the United Kingdom and Pennsylvania are awesome.
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It should work. Just be wary of "control freaks", or folks who don't like a lot luck in their games. Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with more locos, or the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.
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Back in the days when there were less maps we played every map back to back
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It's not a heavy game by any means, but still eminently playable by any level of gamer.
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To the OP: absolutely!

ackmondual wrote:
It should work. Just be wary of "control freaks", or folks who don't like a lot luck in their games. Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with more locos, or the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.


Well, 1910 makes the base game much more skill-based and mostly eliminates such issues. And most of the expansion maps are very well-balanced as well.
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I think Ticket to Ride is enjoyable by any and all. I personally enjoy it quite a bit. However, it NEVER gets played among the experienced gamers I play with. My copy only gets played when skeptical or low-experience gamers are afoot.

-It's not very deep, though your choices are often grueling--games are always tense at our house. I sweat more playing this game than while playing any other I own.
-It's not all that short for what it is, unless everyone you're playing with is fairly experienced at it.
-I find that even I usually prefer to play something else among experienced gamers--that is, something which offers more depth and complexity. Who else are you going to play all those other awesome games with??

I think it's fair to say that Ticket to Ride is to designer board games as Monopoly is to main stream board games.

MD1616 wrote:
...1910 makes the base game much more skill-based...

While I love the addition of 1910, I'm having a hard time seeing how it makes the base game more skill-based. Though admittedly, I've never considered this before.

To the OP: If you get the game, 1910 is a must buy as well, in my opinion.
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dbolyard wrote:
However, it NEVER gets played among the experienced gamers I play with. My copy only gets played when skeptical or low-experience gamers are afoot.

This is also how I see TtR being played in my house.

dbolyard wrote:

-I find that even I usually prefer to play something else among experienced gamers--that is, something which offers more depth and complexity.

Ditto on this for me too.

I only play it if my girls beg me to play. I would not wish it upon any experienced gamer as I personally found it extremely boring after the first couple of plays, so much so that I would rather play Monopoly.

However, I apparently am in the minority since TtR gets lots of love from most people willing to speak about it. So YMMV.
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dbolyard wrote:
I think Ticket to Ride is enjoyable by any and all. I personally enjoy it quite a bit. However, it NEVER gets played among the experienced gamers I play with. My copy only gets played when skeptical or low-experience gamers are afoot.

-It's not very deep, though your choices are often grueling--games are always tense at our house. I sweat more playing this game than while playing any other I own.
-It's not all that short for what it is, unless everyone you're playing with is fairly experienced at it.
-I find that even I usually prefer to play something else among experienced gamers--that is, something which offers more depth and complexity. Who else are you going to play all those other awesome games with??

I think it's fair to say that Ticket to Ride is to designer board games as Monopoly is to main stream board games.


Not my experience at all (on any of those counts, really).

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MD1616 wrote:
...1910 makes the base game much more skill-based...

While I love the addition of 1910, I'm having a hard time seeing how it makes the base game more skill-based. Though admittedly, I've never considered this before.

To the OP: If you get the game, 1910 is a must buy as well, in my opinion.


In the base game, in most cases the only workable strategy is to take as many 5s and 6s as possible and to make 20s. A poor starting ticket draw can be really rough. With 1910 (playing the mega game), getting lots of tickets and not going for big routes is a totally viable strategy.
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Noximilien wrote:
Can anyone recommend it or have any opinions on whether it's worth picking up for a group of more experienced gamers?

I can't dispute that everyone so far thinks it is playable, but for more experienced starters I would probably shift to Europe, or perhaps Nordic (restricted to 3 players).

and here's the reason I myself decline the original as often as I politely am able,
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Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with ... the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.


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Noximilien wrote:
Can anyone recommend it or have any opinions on whether it's worth picking up for a group of more experienced gamers?

I can't dispute that everyone so far thinks it is playable, but for more experienced starters I would probably shift to Europe, or perhaps Nordic (restricted to 3 players).

and here's the reason I myself decline the original as often as I politely am able,
ackmondual wrote:
Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with ... the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.




Try the new maps of United Kingdom and Pennsylvania. They give the game a little more meat to its bones!
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Noximilien wrote:
Hi folks,

Just a quick question. I'd consider myself and my group to be experienced gamers and have games such as the Pandemic, Zombicide, Sentinels of the Multiverse series, Letters from Whitechapel, BSG as well as X-Wing, Armada, Imperial Assault and Netrunner between us, to name but a few in our shared collection. Interestingly, we've no Euro style games.

I've recently been looking into Ticket to Ride (reading reviews, looking at Tabletop etc) and I notice it's recommended as a good game for beginners and as a gateway game.

Can anyone recommend it or have any opinions on whether it's worth picking up for a group of more experienced gamers?

Thanks in advance for any and all input


It's definitely a good game for all levels of gamers. We still break it out every month or so.
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The online game using an Elo rating system...just like what they use for chess players.

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Ticket to Ride is one of my favorite games, but as some have mentioned here I don't usually play it with my experienced gamer friends. I'd actually recommend Splendor for experienced gamers because they have the same feel. In both games, it's all about optimizing your turn to figure out when you want to pick up cards/chips, or spend cards/chips. Splendor is a game I play with both non-gamers and gamers...although it could just be Splendor's newness as a reason why I'm playing it with experienced gamers.
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I would rather play Monopoly.
Sure you would.
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I have loved TTR from the very start. It got better and better with the 1910 and mystery train expansions and some great ideas from fan-made games like Sardinia. I started adding cards and rules to these and started making my own games. Mine are relatively crude due to lack of software and the knowledge to use it - and also to keep printing costs down. However I try to make each one different to the others with new twists.
One great new rule is the ability to dump your entire starter set of cards and draw new ones BUT you must keep them ALL!
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I personally wouldn't recommend it to experienced gamers as it is likely to be a step down in meaningful decision making and depth, while in no way being a filler.

A solid game all the same.

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Oh if you're not used to 'euros' then this is a good place to start.
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MD1616 wrote:
To the OP: absolutely!

ackmondual wrote:
It should work. Just be wary of "control freaks", or folks who don't like a lot luck in their games. Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with more locos, or the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.


Well, 1910 makes the base game much more skill-based and mostly eliminates such issues. And most of the expansion maps are very well-balanced as well.
Worth noting that such comments were directed towards 1910... not just the base game.
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ackmondual wrote:
MD1616 wrote:
To the OP: absolutely!

ackmondual wrote:
It should work. Just be wary of "control freaks", or folks who don't like a lot luck in their games. Some I talked with have a belief that those who start off with more locos, or the east-west Destination Tickets have an advantage right there.


Well, 1910 makes the base game much more skill-based and mostly eliminates such issues. And most of the expansion maps are very well-balanced as well.
Worth noting that such comments were directed towards 1910... not just the base game.


Yes, and I'm saying that that might be true for Vanilla but definitely not with 1910.
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Yes I would...especially if there are a lot of expansion maps available...
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I think the real answer here is that it depends on who it is. I don't see that being experienced gamers has anything to do with it. Granted, if you have non-gamers it's a good thing to play. But it doesn't mean experienced players would dislike it. But they might.

I know a lot of people who like it. I play mostly different type games than you do, so I can't really relate to those very well. I think one question is if the group plays those games because that's really what they enjoy and would otherwise not play, or that just happens to be what they got exposed to and may be open to other things. It's been brought up the idea that's why you play with your experienced friends - sure, if people are playing easier family oriented games at home (or another group), they might not want to do it with your group.

Do you know anyone you can borrow it from, or a store with open games, so that you can try it out and see what they think? Perhaps that's a retarded question as you've likely already thought of that. whistle
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No. It has a boring initial phase followed by some minor skill battles in the middle and endgames. It's very luck driven. I think experienced gamers generally find it some combination of trivial, boring, and irritating.
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No. It has a boring initial phase followed by some minor skill battles in the middle and endgames. It's very luck driven. I think experienced gamers generally find it some combination of trivial, boring, and irritating.

Try some of the fan expansions - they are much more skill based
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