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It doesn't bother me one bit, to me it's words in a game that help describe components or concepts.
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Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1
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God or Gods is a proper name, tile isn't part of the name
as for not capitalizing it its more of a cultural thing that started with the phrase "God with a capital G" so its been kinda transformed over the years though from what I gather thats all fairly recent

edit...as for that link I was told similar but still would write "the Greek Gods" as thats a group name rather than descriptive (I'd agree with the other example)
ermmm to be honest I never got all that high of a grade in english and will most likely never capitalize god when not specifically thinking about it as its just habit to not capitalize.
 
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gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1


It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.
Maybe, but I cannot say what I want with out RSPiing the thread.
 
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Doesn't bother me. It's small potatoes compared to the rest of the disaster which these things are. But you are correct on the usage and I'd say deviations from it were wrong.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1

No reason to unless someone is specifically trying to turn it into RSP and an ugly argument.
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OWL usually is what I go by.
what I don't get is why is it "the Greek gods" and not Greek Gods? Doesn't that fall under proper nouns as a organization?
its Supreme Court not Supreme court
(another edit, I hope everyone reading this understands I'm arguing this because everything points to me being wrong and I'm just trying to understand...numbers are my skill set, not letters)
 
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My Google-Fu is failing me. What is RSP?

Retail Service Provider?
Rover Special Products?
Replaceable Stripper Plate?
Recreational Sex Partner?

None of these seem to fit the topic...
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red_templar wrote:
My Google-Fu is failing me. What is RSP?

Retail Service Provider?
Rover Special Products?
Replaceable Stripper Plate?
Recreational Sex Partner?

None of these seem to fit the topic...

Joke?

Religion, Sex, Politics.

https://boardgamegeek.com/forum/14/boardgamegeek/religion-se...
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gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1


It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.


But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?
 
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gameon39481 wrote:
Does this trend bother anyone else? Especially it makes it very difficult to introduce these games to people with strong religious backgrounds, I think.


It would bother me slightly as it's bad grammar but I've not actually come across it. I doubt it would make introducing a game more difficult with many people - I'd doubt there are that many people who are in the category who would refuse to play a game that has "God tiles & minor God tokens" but would play the same game if it had "god tiles & minor god tokens". I'd guess most would play regardless or not play regardless. It's fairly clear that God vs god is bad grammar rather than a statement on the existence of the gods in question.
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by the Gods, I have bite seen it all.
 
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But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?

Because he thinks using God rather than god might put off people with strong religious beliefs - I'd guess these strong beliefs were not in the Greek Pantheon. I don't think he is correct - I suspect people who don't want to play a game with God tiles would also not want to play a game with god tiles.
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red_templar wrote:
...Recreational Sex Partner?
None of these seem to fit the topic...

well I did bring up the greek gods they had plenty of that RSP which also happened to lead to bad fits of rage
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TheRocketSurgeon wrote:
gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1


It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.


But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?

Actually it is. It's only capitalized in English if it's a proper name. If you mean gods as in a type of entity then it's lower case; if you mean God as in an entity's name then capitalize it.

Examples:
"Is God a god?"
"Do you believe in God?"
"Do you believe in gods?"
"Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, say YES!"
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Nope, doesn't bother me at all, and I am a Christian.
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OWL usually is what I go by.
what I don't get is why is it "the Greek gods" and not Greek Gods? Doesn't that fall under proper nouns as a organization?
its Supreme Court not Supreme court
(another edit, I hope everyone reading this understands I'm arguing this because everything points to me being wrong and I'm just trying to understand...numbers are my skill set, not letters)


"Greek gods" isn't an organization. It's a group of gods from Greece.

Groups are not necessarily organizations. Some are, some aren't.

A good indicator is whether it makes sense to ask when the group was founded. It's perfectly sensible to ask, "When was the Supreme Court founded?" But, it doesn't make sense to ask, "When were the Australian kangaroos founded?"

Bear in mind that it's not an issue of whether a time can be specified (some informal organizations do not have a discernible start date); rather, it's an issue of whether the question itself makes sense.

For what it's worth, if there was a football team called "The Greek Gods," then "Gods" would be capitalized.

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Coren wrote:
TheRocketSurgeon wrote:
gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1


It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.


But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?

Actually it is. It's only capitalized in English if it's a proper name. If you mean gods as in a type of entity then it's lower case; if you mean God as in an entity's name then capitalize it.

Examples:
"Is God a god?"
"Do you believe in God?"
"Do you believe in gods?"
"Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, say YES!"


This nails it for me. I find the use in Bora Bora to be wrong. They are not referring to the god of the Bible (the Christian bible)known as YHWH or Lord or God. Often using an article will clue you in.

Am I offended? Absolutely not, I do find it funny.
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Coren wrote:
TheRocketSurgeon wrote:
gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1


It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.


But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?

Actually it is. It's only capitalized in English if it's a proper name. If you mean gods as in a type of entity then it's lower case; if you mean God as in an entity's name then capitalize it.

Examples:
"Is God a god?"
"Do you believe in God?"
"Do you believe in gods?"
"Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, say YES!"


Almost, it can also be capitalized when used as a title, the rank sort of title.
 
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Yeah I see nothing offensive other than displaying a lack of understanding English capitalization rules.

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TheRocketSurgeon wrote:
gameon39481 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Capitalization in RSP, in 3...2...1

It's grammar though. I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.

But surely it's not honestly JUST grammar, right? Why are you singling this one word out compared to so many others?

Hey, someone just started a thread about color-blindness that implied that gamers weren't normal adults. Surely that is more offensive.

In any case, if I entered every BGG thread that made me think, "Why in the world would anybody care about this" to ask them I'd be here all day.
 
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Another thought. If a game had "god" as lowercase used in such a way where it should be capitalized it might make me wonder if it was just a grammatical error or had some agenda. There is a game that has a "God" token that is definitely referring to the god of the Bible. If this was lowercase I might find it strange.

It would not prevent me from playing the game. (not by itself.)
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gameon39481 wrote:
I think probably much of the issue is translation is coming from German where all nouns are capitalized. It's probably one of the more difficult aspects for translators.


As Josiah already mentioned it's just a translation issue. The german language capitalizes every noun, so there's no difference between a specific god or an arbitraty one. The translator maybe remembered that 'God' is capitalized in the english language, not knowing about the distinction between upper and lower case version.
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FOR FUTURE GAME RULES WRITERS, I RECOMMEND SIMPLY USING ALL CAPS. THAT WAY, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE CAPITALIZING GOD... IN THE CASE THAT YOU OFFEND SOMEONE BECAUSE YOU USED AN UPPER/LOWER CASE 'G'.

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It doesn't bother me either way; but, I do know a couple people it would bother if it wasn't capitalized.
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