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There are rumors about a new edition with remade artwork. Do any one knows if there are any rule changes?
 
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There is an entry for a Master Print Edition pending. The listing should give the details once it's live.
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https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgamefamily/129/quined-mas...

As far as I know a reprint with new art and an expansion.
 
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hahahaha. And never received my old one.
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Here is link: Vanuatu (second edition)

Hoping that the expansion pieces will work with the copy that I was fortunate enough to receive.
 
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From the image posted, it does not seem to be the case. Original pieces were hexagons, and the image shows a star-shaped piece. And anyway, it seems they will release the whole package, and not the expansion alone.
 
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Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run
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Based on what they did with Massilia I assume that they will do this.
 
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johnyutah7 wrote:
Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run
Nor I.
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johnyutah7 wrote:
Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run


Does make me wonder though - can a new publisher have any legal or moral obligation to fulfill previously failed agreements of an unrelated party? I'd guess no.
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Shader10 wrote:
johnyutah7 wrote:
Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run


Does make me wonder though - can a new publisher have any legal or moral obligation to fulfill previously failed agreements of an unrelated party? I'd guess no.


That would depend on how the licensing contract was worded.

Again. Precedent suggests that as Quined did the same thing with Massillia which was designed by the same person and was another kickstarter collapse, they would behave in the same way.

It would be pretty bad publicity if they didn't.
 
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I never received my copy of the game, funded in a IndieGoGo campaign.
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Shader10 wrote:
johnyutah7 wrote:
Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run


Does make me wonder though - can a new publisher have any legal or moral obligation to fulfill previously failed agreements of an unrelated party? I'd guess no.


Publisher does not have any obligation, but Mr. Apron certainly does. He is bound to be seeing some financial return from this new edition, which most certainly should be directed to fulfilling missing rewards.
 
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johnyutah7 wrote:
Shader10 wrote:
johnyutah7 wrote:
Chuie wrote:
hahahaha. And never received my old one.


Nor I - seems like that should be addressed before putting funds into a new run


Does make me wonder though - can a new publisher have any legal or moral obligation to fulfill previously failed agreements of an unrelated party? I'd guess no.


Publisher does not have any obligation, but Mr. Apron certainly does. He is bound to be seeing some financial return from this new edition, which most certainly should be directed to fulfilling missing rewards.


Sure, but I can't see that being Quined's business or problem. They are dealing with a designer, not another publisher.
 
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https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/53066/new-game-round-revi...

Quined Games wrote:
A few years ago, we decided to publish Vanuatu. We fell in love with the game and decided to breathe new life into this forgotten gem. We decided to give the game a whole new makeover and we decided also to include the expansion The Rising Waters. We were aware at the time that there had been problems with the initial crowdfunding campaign, and although we had nothing to do with this campaign, we have now decided – together with designer Alain Epron – to give the unfortunate backers who never caught their copy a generous compensation.

Every backer of the original campaign that did NOT receive their game (or the expansion) will receive their copy (or copies) for FREE. Yes, because we are nice that way. How will this work? Well, we kindly ask each one of the backers to send an e-mail to kickstarter@quined.nl with your full name, address, phone number, and a copy of the original e-mail you received during the original Ulule/Indiegogo campaign, clearly detailing the precise quantities of the copies that you ordered originally. The mail address mentioned in that original e-mail should be the one you send the e-mail from as proof. One word of warning though: Since this is a gift to you previous backers, one thing we do ask of you though is to cover the shipping costs. We hope you understand this. We will also arrange for a pick-up option at the following fairs: Spiel 2016 (DE), Spellenspektakel 2016 (NL), and Spel 2016 (BE). So shoot us an e-mail before 31-08-2016 and we will be in touch.


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pharmakon wrote:
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/53066/new-game-round-revi...

Quined Games wrote:
A few years ago, we decided to publish Vanuatu. We fell in love with the game and decided to breathe new life into this forgotten gem. We decided to give the game a whole new makeover and we decided also to include the expansion The Rising Waters. We were aware at the time that there had been problems with the initial crowdfunding campaign, and although we had nothing to do with this campaign, we have now decided – together with designer Alain Epron – to give the unfortunate backers who never caught their copy a generous compensation.

Every backer of the original campaign that did NOT receive their game (or the expansion) will receive their copy (or copies) for FREE. Yes, because we are nice that way. How will this work? Well, we kindly ask each one of the backers to send an e-mail to kickstarter@quined.nl with your full name, address, phone number, and a copy of the original e-mail you received during the original Ulule/Indiegogo campaign, clearly detailing the precise quantities of the copies that you ordered originally. The mail address mentioned in that original e-mail should be the one you send the e-mail from as proof. One word of warning though: Since this is a gift to you previous backers, one thing we do ask of you though is to cover the shipping costs. We hope you understand this. We will also arrange for a pick-up option at the following fairs: Spiel 2016 (DE), Spellenspektakel 2016 (NL), and Spel 2016 (BE). So shoot us an e-mail before 31-08-2016 and we will be in touch.


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Well, yes, they are doing a solid for fans. It's just that I can't seem them being legally or morally obliged to do so.
 
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pharmakon wrote:
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/53066/new-game-round-revi...

Quined Games wrote:
A few years ago, we decided to publish Vanuatu. We fell in love with the game and decided to breathe new life into this forgotten gem. We decided to give the game a whole new makeover and we decided also to include the expansion The Rising Waters. We were aware at the time that there had been problems with the initial crowdfunding campaign, and although we had nothing to do with this campaign, we have now decided – together with designer Alain Epron – to give the unfortunate backers who never caught their copy a generous compensation.

Every backer of the original campaign that did NOT receive their game (or the expansion) will receive their copy (or copies) for FREE. Yes, because we are nice that way. How will this work? Well, we kindly ask each one of the backers to send an e-mail to kickstarter@quined.nl with your full name, address, phone number, and a copy of the original e-mail you received during the original Ulule/Indiegogo campaign, clearly detailing the precise quantities of the copies that you ordered originally. The mail address mentioned in that original e-mail should be the one you send the e-mail from as proof. One word of warning though: Since this is a gift to you previous backers, one thing we do ask of you though is to cover the shipping costs. We hope you understand this. We will also arrange for a pick-up option at the following fairs: Spiel 2016 (DE), Spellenspektakel 2016 (NL), and Spel 2016 (BE). So shoot us an e-mail before 31-08-2016 and we will be in touch.


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Email sent. Thank you, Quined Games!
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Well, yes, they are doing a solid for fans. It's just that I can't seem them being legally or morally obliged to do so.


I'm not arguing with you, I'm informing you. Your philosophy is your own, and if you can't imagine how someone would think that they were morally obligated to do so, your imagination is limited.

The fact is that they're doing it, and they certainly could get away with not doing it...
 
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There are certainly good business and marketing reasons so to do. Build good will. Create loyal customers. Get good publicity. Etc.
 
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There are certainly good business and marketing reasons so to do. Build good will. Create loyal customers. Get good publicity. Etc.


Yes. I was more responding to the idea that they are s8mehow required to act in this manner due to the failed campaign.
 
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The kickstarter for the new edition is live:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661420780/vanuatu-seco...
 
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