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Masoud Tabatabaei
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My online shop has brought an expansion called "Moor visitors", which I cannot find an entry for it on BGG. Is it an exapnsion for Viticulture or for Viticulture:Essential edition, or for both. What it adds, and how it changes the game?
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There are a number of discussions about this in other threads, for example here.
 
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It is new expansion for both games.

Out of curiosity, how much does it cost?
 
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hybry wrote:
It is new expansion for both games.

Out of curiosity, how much does it cost?


10.95€
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It's a small expansion that adds 20 new summer visitor cards and 20 new winter visitor cards. I'm getting for sure
 
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Masoud: Which online shop is it? They should have provided this information on the shop (I sent it to stores last week). Moor Visitors will have a BGG entry as of the 21st.
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jameystegmaier wrote:
Masoud: Which online shop is it? They should have provided this information on the shop (I sent it to stores last week). Moor Visitors will have a BGG entry as of the 21st.


http://www.philibertnet.com/fr/stonemaier-games/40417-viticu...

My french is not great, so maybe I missed the details on the site.
Ok, I wait for the entry on 21st :) . My main question is that if the new visitors add specific flavor/dynamic to the game or not, but I guess I will find the answers soon on the page of the expansion.
 
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Oh yes, the new visitors add a lot of new stuff. You can see spoilers for them here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/821960094586948/
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jameystegmaier wrote:
Oh yes, the new visitors add a lot of new stuff. You can see spoilers for them here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/821960094586948/


Anything that can be pasted here for those without Facebook?
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Sure, I'll post a recent one:

 
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jameystegmaier wrote:
Sure, I'll post a recent one:



Oh! Weird Al Jankovic councilman. I love it!
 
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jameystegmaier wrote:
Sure, I'll post a recent one:


What's a blue card?
 
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yooden wrote:
jameystegmaier wrote:
Sure, I'll post a recent one:


What's a blue card?

A winter vistor, so this card allows you to play a winter visitor during the Summer.
 
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farsidehobbes wrote:
yooden wrote:
What's a blue card?

A winter vistor, so this card allows you to play a winter visitor during the Summer.

That blue changed so much that I didn't even recognize it.

For the better! The similarity between winter visitors and contracts is the only visual glitch in Viticulture.
 
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That's correct, we've lightened the blue winter visitor icons in Moor and Viticulture Essential to make them easier to distinguish from the purple wine order icons.
 
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Best pre-order price for MV I could find is ¢29 a card (comparison: San Juan ¢13, Machi Koro ¢10, and both have small bits in addition to the cards). I guess I will wait to see if the price goes down.
 
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The MSRP is $15. Unlike those other examples, every card in MV has unique art. You're not just paying for cardstock--you're paying for everything that went into making the expansion.
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yooden wrote:
Best pre-order price for MV I could find is ¢29 a card (comparison: San Juan ¢13, Machi Koro ¢10, and both have small bits in addition to the cards). I guess I will wait to see if the price goes down.


I think the price is really fair. I've already pre-ordered it from my usual online shop.
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jameystegmaier wrote:
The MSRP is $15. Unlike those other examples, every card in MV has unique art. You're not just paying for cardstock--you're paying for everything that went into making the expansion.

San Juan and Machi Koro each have more unique art than MV, and since they are complete games, I'm pretty sure some measure of preparation was necessary for them too.

In a way, my ruminations are backscatter from Exploding Kittens, at ¢45 a card a lot more expensive than either of the three games. That's when I started to compare.
 
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yooden wrote:
jameystegmaier wrote:
The MSRP is $15. Unlike those other examples, every card in MV has unique art. You're not just paying for cardstock--you're paying for everything that went into making the expansion.

San Juan and Machi Koro each have more unique art than MV, and since they are complete games, I'm pretty sure some measure of preparation was necessary for them too.

In a way, my ruminations are backscatter from Exploding Kittens, at ¢45 a card a lot more expensive than either of the three games. That's when I started to compare.


We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this point. I'm simply not wired that way. I have never done a cost per card analysis before. That isn't how I'm programmed to find value in a product.

My girlfriend and I love Viticulture. One aspect of Viticulture we really enjoy are the visitor cards. We feel they add a lot to each game and without them, it would not be nearly as enjoyable. This expansion adds 40 new visitors at a cost that is less than the take away dinner we had last night (not fast food, from a restaurant).

For me that is great value. I'm excited for it.
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I got it for $10. That's a great deal for 40 all new completely unique cards. I can't wait to play it again. It'll be a good excuse to play with more of the Tuscany expansions some more.
 
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jameystegmaier wrote:
The MSRP is $15. Unlike those other examples, every card in MV has unique art. You're not just paying for cardstock--you're paying for everything that went into making the expansion.


Will this be available from Feuerland Spiele too. Would be perfect for the market start of this game in Germany... ;-)
 
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Dickie77 wrote:
Will this be available from Feuerland Spiele too. Would be perfect for the market start of this game in Germany... ;-)

Good idea! There are few names in gaming in Germany with a pull like Uwe Rosenberg.
 
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Dirk: Yes, eventually it will be.
 
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