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This 98+ shipping!!!! and that does not even get me everything. Why are people backing this? You can buy a proven game for less and even hard to find proven games for cheaper than the $142.

So please someone tell me why this game is worth it?
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Why did you feel the need to post a new thread about this? Maybe you could participate in the discussion that is already talking about it?
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MFatman wrote:
This 98+ shipping!!!! and that does not even get me everything. Why are people backing this? You can buy a proven game for less and even hard to find proven games for cheaper than the $142.

So please someone tell me why this game is worth it?


Please actually look at the project before complaining about it, they clearly talk about this.

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Great news everyone!

CTG managed to cut shipping prices:

Go check their last update on KS (EU shipping down by $30 and World shipping down by $13)
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Kin Hassar wrote:
Great news everyone!

CTG managed to cut shipping prices:

Go check their last update on KS (EU shipping down by $30 and World shipping down by $13)


That is great news and really shows a commitment to your fanbase.

I'm sure Fatman will still find something to complain about though
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Just fanboy responses, still no reasons given why this game is worth $98-$142 for the full game.

Let me add this because judging by the responses I already got you are blinded by something.

I have KSed many projects and just to pick one of hundreds lets talk about Castle Dice. CD is very similar in components and KS for $65 shipping included! Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?

Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...
 
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MFatman wrote:
Just fanboy responses, still no reasons given why this game is worth $98-$142 for the full game.

Let me add this because judging by the responses I already got you are blinded by something.

I have KSed many projects and just to pick one of hundreds lets talk about Castle Dice. CD is very similar in components and KS for $65 shipping included! Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?

Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...


How about we don't talk about them because there is no relevancy. If you don't think it's worth paying, no one is holding a gun to your head to back it.
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MFatman wrote:
Just fanboy responses, still no reasons given why this game is worth $98-$142 for the full game.

Let me add this because judging by the responses I already got you are blinded by something.

I have KSed many projects and just to pick one of hundreds lets talk about Castle Dice. CD is very similar in components and KS for $65 shipping included! Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?

Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...


How about we don't talk about them because there is no relevancy. If you don't think it's worth paying, no one is holding a gun to your head to back it.


LOL this is a Forum and by definition it is used to talk.... Can you really not give me reasons and have to resort to telling me to go away?!?!

I will be a little more blunt. I have a $100 cart at CSI waiting for me to check out. Please someone give me reasons to back this KS instead.

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MFatman wrote:
Just fanboy responses, still no reasons given why this game is worth $98-$142 for the full game.

Let me add this because judging by the responses I already got you are blinded by something.

I have KSed many projects and just to pick one of hundreds lets talk about Castle Dice. CD is very similar in components and KS for $65 shipping included! Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?

Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...


Castle Dice has 63 dice, according to the BGG entry. Too Many Bones has 120.

I don't know what kind of player mats Castle Dice has, but TMB has multi layered / slotted neoprene mats. That's pretty cool.

Castle Dice has cardboard chits. TMB has plastic chits.


So... no... not very similar in components.

Good troll though. Enjoy your CSI cart!
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Yes, the forum is used to talk, but comparing two different companies' Kickstarter campaigns to each other is not relevant to the discussion. Each person/entity will conduct their Kickstarter campaign separately and they have already explained their reasonings for the higher shipping prices and the reason for the premium cost of a game with premium components.

While there may be similarities in people's decision to back the game, each person has different reasons for backing it.

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Why are people backing this? You can buy a proven game for less and even hard to find proven games for cheaper than the $142.


This was your first post in this thread. I am basically hearing in your question/statement that you think I'm a fool for supporting the KS campaign because there are other games I could get for less money. I guess I don't like being called a fool.

If you don't want to back the game because you think it's priced too high including the shipping costs, then that's your decision, and no amount of my reasoning will dissuade you from that decision, as it sounds like you have already made up your mind. If you do choose to back it, you'll support a couple of guys that have a proven record among their small, established fan base.

The "proven" games you speak of were new at one point too, and they are only proven now because they have been around for a while and people have played them. Given enough time, this could become a "proven" game as well.

I wish you well in your gaming endeavors.
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Why am I backing this?

Because Hoplomachus.
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You're right, you should pass and use the money to buy shoes or groceries instead.

I've got plenty of both so I'm going all in. Soooo excited!!
 
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I'm not backing because I think the cost is too high. I think the game components DO warrant the cost.

I'm not making threads, calling people "fanboys" and generally making myself look like an ass for continually harping on the subject.

Maybe learn from me?
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MFatman wrote:
Just fanboy responses, still no reasons given why this game is worth $98-$142 for the full game.

Let me add this because judging by the responses I already got you are blinded by something.

I have KSed many projects and just to pick one of hundreds lets talk about Castle Dice. CD is very similar in components and KS for $65 shipping included! Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?

Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...


Wait, other people don't value things the same way you do? THEY MUST BE WRONG AND YOU MUST TELL THEM ABOUT IT!!

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Clearly trolling this man is, comparing components of this to Castle Dice? Ridiculous that is.

Thinks his opinion is always right, does he? Maybe he is the chosen one after all....
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MFatman wrote:
Oh and Castle Dice gave $34,000 of the KS to charity too btw...

What? That's flagrantly against Kickstarter policy.
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Not the point, which is it prevents many of us from buying it due to it's high cost. I can afford it, but I refuse to give my money so freely.
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Not the point, which is it prevents many of us from buying it due to it's high cost. I can afford it, but I refuse to give my money so freely.


Exactly I smelled elitism, much like Glory to "Romanites" and these responses are doing nothing to dissuade me. I will have to wait for a trusted reviewer's opinion.

Raising concerns about $150 game price tag is not trolling, but a legit complaint. If i was trolling then you would have heard terms like "Mouse pads, ugly dice, and Wal-mart poker chips" before now...but worry not I will depart this forum for better waters and maybe one day it can be said

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MFatman wrote:
This 98+ shipping!!!! and that does not even get me everything. Why are people backing this? You can buy a proven game for less and even hard to find proven games for cheaper than the $142.

So please someone tell me why this game is worth it?


If you're not willing to spend the $, then don't. I pledged $130 (plus $200 for expansions) for Kingdom Death: Monster and didn't actually receive it for 3 years (3.5 for the expansions). It was totally worth it since the game is absolutely amazing and the final retail value ended up being ~$750. I also pledged $125 for Up Front which went under, has a lawsuit against them, and I will basically never see that money again.

This is kickstarter, not a storefront. It's up to you to research the company and game to see if it's worth it to you to support them making this game. If it's not, then don't back it. Wait until 2017 after it has been reviewed. There's a few gameplay videos out there that look promising. Go watch those. If it looks like something you'd enjoy and you trust the company (they've delivered before), then back it.
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MFatman wrote:
This 98+ shipping!!!! and that does not even get me everything. Why are people backing this? You can buy a proven game for less and even hard to find proven games for cheaper than the $142.

So please someone tell me why this game is worth it?


Could be they determined Fun to be had per dollar is 'worth' it to the backers?

Component quality is one the few non imaginary 'values' that can be placed on a board game, therefore this one should definitely be 'worth' more than a lot of games if you want to talk about actual reasons why something costs more.

Maybe because they like super premium games.

Or it could be maybe they put premium gas in their cars. To you it may not be 'worth' it, you can get more cheap gas for your buck, but they desire to pay more for higher quality.

Point is, There are plenty of reasons given on other threads and an explanation on ks page, if you prefer not researching anything past looking at sticker price then wailing, than too bad for you, the onus is on you to not be so lazy, not others to provide an exhaustive report handed on a sliver platter while anything less is bafflingly called fanboism.

The superflous explanation marks don't paint a very balanced picture of your analysis habits either.
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MFatman wrote:


Raising concerns about $150 game price tag is not trolling, but a legit complaint.


No, that is trolling. Everything you are complaining about is very clearly explained in the KS page, which clearly you didn't bother to read. It is obvious you clicked on the page, saw the price, then came on here to post flagrant remarks used to incite an emotional response with little to no actual research into the topic you are posting about.

This is, by definition, trolling
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bigGameGeek wrote:
MFatman wrote:


Raising concerns about $150 game price tag is not trolling, but a legit complaint.


No, that is trolling. Everything you are complaining about is very clearly explained in the KS page, which clearly you didn't bother to read. It is obvious you clicked on the page, saw the price, then came on here to post flagrant remarks used to incite an emotional response with little to no actual research into the topic you are posting about.

This is, by definition, trolling

You also did not "raise concerns," you called backers fools for buying in and then compared it to another non-comparable project.
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MFatman wrote:
Now tell me why this game is worth $98 plus $14 Shipping?


...$14 shipping...

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