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Hello Starcraft BG fans,

Starting in Android development, I made an application to get all unit details embedded.
Detailed cost, combat cards, Technologies per unit are listed (including Brood War).

It also features an assistant to setup a new game from the opening of the box to the first turn.



https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=saturn.worksho...

I think I could add some more information, like match up statistics, average Attack/Health, etc.
Any feedback is very welcome !

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Nice work on the app!!

Some feedback for you:

1} Double tapping on any picture while showing how to setup the game causes the app to crash.

2} Minor attack values on combat cards are also important in some cases so you should add them too.

3} Leadership card info would also be nice to have

4} I have a 4.5 inch screen phone and the text size while watching various card abilities was a bit small and I had to move the phone closer to read. There was enough empty space on the screen to make the letters bigger and still fit the info on the screen.

5} Maybe add the official scenario setup too? Not sure this is needed at all, I'm just writing some ideas for you to consider.

That's all. All in all, nice idea and a good aid for those people who still play this awesome game. (I still think that it's FFGs greatest game of all time)
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Thank you for you feedback Vasilis, very useful.

Bowmangr wrote:

1} Double tapping on any picture while showing how to setup the game causes the app to crash.


No such issue on my phone. Which version of Android and which phone do you use ? So I can emulate it to reproduce.

Bowmangr wrote:

2} Minor attack values on combat cards are also important in some cases so you should add them too.


I agree, but it is more about where to display them. I need to think about it.

Bowmangr wrote:

3} Leadership card info would also be nice to have


Working on it for next release

Bowmangr wrote:

4} I have a 4.5 inch screen phone and the text size while watching various card abilities was a bit small and I had to move the phone closer to read. There was enough empty space on the screen to make the letters bigger and still fit the info on the screen.


Ok, I will make the text bigger

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5} Maybe add the official scenario setup too? Not sure this is needed at all, I'm just writing some ideas for you to consider.


Why not, but I admit I never played the scenario. For later release.

I have a 6 players game planned this next weekend, and I will have my phone with me, so real practice case could also point improvements.
 
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Nitrik wrote:
Thank you for you feedback Vasilis, very useful.


No problem. meeple

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1} Double tapping on any picture while showing how to setup the game causes the app to crash.


No such issue on my phone. Which version of Android and which phone do you use ? So I can emulate it to reproduce.


I have Motorola Moto G 1st generation with Android 5.1

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2} Minor attack values on combat cards are also important in some cases so you should add them too.


I agree, but it is more about where to display them. I need to think about it.


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3} Leadership card info would also be nice to have


Working on it for next release


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4} I have a 4.5 inch screen phone and the text size while watching various card abilities was a bit small and I had to move the phone closer to read. There was enough empty space on the screen to make the letters bigger and still fit the info on the screen.


Ok, I will make the text bigger


Cool!

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5} Maybe add the official scenario setup too? Not sure this is needed at all, I'm just writing some ideas for you to consider.


Why not, but I admit I never played the scenario. For later release.


I never play scenario mode too. I just mentioned it as a possible feature to implement if you like.
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Can you include the changes if you have the expansion? I never play without it as all the stuff is integrated into the player components.


Thanks!



After this you should do this for TI Too!! My only problem with these games is I NEVER can remember the setup.
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corkysru wrote:
Can you include the changes if you have the expansion? I never play without it as all the stuff is integrated into the player components.


Actually the application considers base game + Brood war.
Like you, I always play with it, even with new players.

I could do an option to select/unselect the expansion, but it requires few hours of work, and not sure it deserves it.
 
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Nitrik wrote:
corkysru wrote:
Can you include the changes if you have the expansion? I never play without it as all the stuff is integrated into the player components.


Actually the application considers base game + Brood war.
Like you, I always play with it, even with new players.

I could do an option to select/unselect the expansion, but it requires few hours of work, and not sure it deserves it.

Oh! For some reason I thought there was an extra step (and the pictures were of just the base game so I wasn't sure).

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corkysru wrote:

Oh! For some reason I thought there was an extra step (and the pictures were of just the base game so I wasn't sure).


You are right, it is not clearly states. I changed the app and the topic description.
 
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I just downloaded the app and it looks great, definitely can be a helpful resource for when i get the game to the table, especially the set up help.

Just a suggestion. Would it be possible to add in a turn layout helper, like how you had the game set up, but for each step of a turn phase, and maybe the same thing for combat, I have printed out sheets that I use, but if everything is integrated in 1 app it will reduce table clutter.

Sort of based off these that are similar to what I currently use.

https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/116050/starcraft-board-ga...

Just a suggestion, take it or leave it. Thanks for the app and the work you have done.
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Update time !

New version has been posted, now featuring the leadership cards !
* All leadership cards listed for the 7 factions
* Dynamic Stage level filtering

Preview:


Still looking forward your feedbacks

The app is still here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=saturn.worksho...

smithalank wrote:

Just a suggestion. Would it be possible to add in a turn layout helper, like how you had the game set up, but for each step of a turn phase, and maybe the same thing for combat, I have printed out sheets that I use, but if everything is integrated in 1 app it will reduce table clutter.


I do not plan to do it for now, since many documents exist, as you linked.
But you get a point about the table space.
As I said, this weekend I have a huge 6 players game, and I plan to use the app for practice feedbacks. Then I will see what to do next.
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Good luck. I can't wait to see what other features/tweaks you might make!
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New feedback:

Bigger font is appreciated. Much better than before.

App still crashes when I double tap anywhere on the game setup assist screens which is not a big problem as I don't have to tap the screen and the 'previous'/'next' buttons work as intended. The only difference that I can see is that in the previous version the app crashed and closed but now when it crashes it throws me back in the main menu.

All new additions are useful.

Keep up the good work.
 
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Not a lawyer.

As some general advice, I'd have the app set up so it's easy to switch/strip the artwork - it's the one thing that you could get a legit Cease and Desist letter over, or have your app pulled.

Looks great, though!
 
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So this last weekend I had 6 players game, and I, but also 2 of them, used the app.

We used:
thumbsup The setup Assistant
thumbsup Unit detailed view to plan which will be deployed
thumbsup Unit Att/Health overview values (more detailed than the unit sheet)

We missed:
thumbsdown A fast navigation menu (example: to move from Marine to Dragoon unit view, you need to: back,back,click,click)
thumbsdown Average value for units
thumbsdown A glossary
thumbsdown Battle and Regrouping sequences

Note we had sheets to get these 2 last information, but I wished I had everything at the same place.

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Thanks for this! Have some geekgold for an avatar if you like!


Awesome ! Thank you ska_prince !
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Those changes sound awesome!!
 
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I have a Q:
I really don't understand how knowing the average values instead of the real values can help anyone in a deterministic battle system. Can anyone help me here?
 
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It's really just a statistic average to give you an idea of the relative power of the units. Useful to decide about your front-line unit.

In the printed player aid it's also useful because it uses up less space, but I guess it would be cool to have the full information on the app.
 
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This is really, really, great, thanks a lot. I actually fantasized about something like this existing just yesterday, but didn't think it actually existed.
 
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It is an older post already but I'll still write something since I just downloaded your app.

Stellar STELLAR job!

Thank you!
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Nikolas88 wrote:
It is an older post already but I'll still write something since I just downloaded your app.

Stellar STELLAR job!

Thank you!


Thank you for compliment laugh

I'm still around, but moved on other projects. So the app improvements are paused for now.
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Nikolas88 wrote:
It is an older post already but I'll still write something since I just downloaded your app.

Stellar STELLAR job!

Thank you!


Thank you for compliment laugh

I'm still around, but moved on other projects. So the app improvements are paused for now.

This app is awesome. It's been a while since I had played but it is really in depth and informative.
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Is this out . Deff want to play it
 
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Very cool. I finally took the copy off the shelf we've had for 10 years and was learning the game this past weekend. I'll definitely give your app a shot. There are so many fiddly details in the game so it might be good to have this as a handy resource for the players at the table.
 
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