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Men-Only Barber Shop That Refused Him Service

A state court lawsuit was filed last week in California against a men-only barber shop and two of its barbers who, for religious reasons, refused to cut the hair of a transgender man. The complaint (full text) in Oliver v. The Barbershop, R.C., Inc., (CA Super., filed 5/24/2016), relates the following reasons given to reporters by the barber shop's owner for the policy:

"It's a shame for a man to have long hair, but if a woman has long hair, it's her glory and it speaks to being given to her as her covering, and I don't want to be the one who is taking away from her glory." Hernandez also told reporters that when "people go against what God has created, you start getting everything out of whack."

The suit seeks injunctive relief under California's Unruh Civil Rights Act. A Lambda Legal press release reports on the case.
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Next will it be candlestick makers?
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Nah, it will probably be those people who stand in the bathroom of a ritzy hotel or club to give you a hand towel or a hit of cologne when you're done washing your hands. Inevitably, one of them will not want to serve a gay or transgender individual !
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jonb wrote:
Men-Only Barber Shop That Refused Him Service

A state court lawsuit was filed last week in California against a men-only barber shop and two of its barbers who, for religious reasons, refused to cut the hair of a transgender man. The complaint (full text) in Oliver v. The Barbershop, R.C., Inc., (CA Super., filed 5/24/2016), relates the following reasons given to reporters by the barber shop's owner for the policy:

"It's a shame for a man to have long hair, but if a woman has long hair, it's her glory and it speaks to being given to her as her covering, and I don't want to be the one who is taking away from her glory." Hernandez also told reporters that when "people go against what God has created, you start getting everything out of whack."

The suit seeks injunctive relief under California's Unruh Civil Rights Act. A Lambda Legal press release reports on the case.


The barber shop is correct of course.

I wonder if this kind of nonsense is going to lead to DNA testing before service?



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galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!
 
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chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Just say the words "OOPS" really loudly and deny when they ask what's wrong. and look around in a panic.

You don't have to fuck it up, just make the customer think you did.
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"It's a shame for a man to have long hair, but if a woman has long hair, it's her glory and it speaks to being given to her as her covering, and I don't want to be the one who is taking away from her glory." Hernandez also told reporters that when "people go against what God has created, you start getting everything out of whack."


My wife's friend (implicitly criticizing my wife's chic short hair style) once referred to women's hair as "their crowning glory". I didn't realize that was a religious statement!

Guess that barber won't be shaving pubes, either.
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galad2003 wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Just say the words "OOPS" really loudly and deny when they ask what's wrong. and look around in a panic.

You don't have to fuck it up, just make the customer think you did.


Agree.

How did I manage to screw up the laundry? Shove everything in the washer at the same time, overload the fuck out of it, turn it on hot water. Then turn the drier up to high heat and run that sumbitch for the most time that dial goes. Whoops my bad! Sure I get yelled out but deny everything and play dumb. No more laundry!


If you are serious, you sound like a horrible partner.
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Dunno. How about just being a professional and doing a decent job of whatever it is that you do, even explicitly when you don't like the customer -- because that's what you do in life?

Or is that too complicated?
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Dunno. How about just being a professional and doing a decent job of whatever it is that you do, even explicitly when you don't like the customer -- because that's what you do in life?

Or is that too complicated?


They believe in an invisible sky being. Rational went out the window awhile ago.
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galad2003 wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Just say the words "OOPS" really loudly and deny when they ask what's wrong. and look around in a panic.

You don't have to fuck it up, just make the customer think you did.


Agree.

How did I manage to screw up the laundry? Shove everything in the washer at the same time, overload the fuck out of it, turn it on hot water. Then turn the drier up to high heat and run that sumbitch for the most time that dial goes. Whoops my bad! Sure I get yelled out but deny everything and play dumb. No more laundry!


If my partner did that I would just do my own laundry and let them fend for themselves.
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galad2003 wrote:
Dispaminite wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Just say the words "OOPS" really loudly and deny when they ask what's wrong. and look around in a panic.

You don't have to fuck it up, just make the customer think you did.


Agree.

How did I manage to screw up the laundry? Shove everything in the washer at the same time, overload the fuck out of it, turn it on hot water. Then turn the drier up to high heat and run that sumbitch for the most time that dial goes. Whoops my bad! Sure I get yelled out but deny everything and play dumb. No more laundry!


Is it too soon or in bad taste to make a FTFY to "Voila, no more marriage!"? I think a year is safe but you never know w/ the interwebs.

This of course relates to the classic comic:

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Dispaminite wrote:
bbenston wrote:
Dunno. How about just being a professional and doing a decent job of whatever it is that you do, even explicitly when you don't like the customer -- because that's what you do in life?

Or is that too complicated?


They believe in an invisible sky being. Rational went out the window awhile ago.


Then I guess the answer is "yes", so I welcome our new era of carve-outs in the law for every last grievance. Oh yes, because it's a bright new world where car repairs are defined as copyrightable art, so as to avoid doing basic services for whoever uppity person just wanted to give you money that day.

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chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Do it like I used to mow the grass (it wasn't deliberate, it's just that I couldn't see properly): leave ridges!
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I have to ask, does cutting someones hair mean you support their lifestyle choice?

 
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Dispaminite wrote:
They believe in an invisible sky being. Rational went out the window awhile ago.

You trot out this tired strawman far too often. Who exactly are you trying to convince?
 
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galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair...



They don't do it because it would be dishonest and not the truth of the situation.

And Christ means 'Anointed One'.
 
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bbenston wrote:
Dunno. How about just being a professional and doing a decent job of whatever it is that you do, even explicitly when you don't like the customer -- because that's what you do in life?

Or is that too complicated?



Oh, I can do a good job AND get rid of customers I don't like.


Problem is I hate most customers.
 
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Sarxis wrote:
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In situations like this why don't they cut the hair...



They don't do it because it would be dishonest and not the truth of the situation.

And Christ means 'Anointed One'.


Yeah, like in the Bible, where Jesus told the whores and tax collectors to go fuck themselves and cut their own hair.
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It's really getting annoying that people worry so much about other people's genitals. Jesus didn't say a thing about transgendered individuals or gays, but that (and abortion) is all what the American Christians can talk about. It's sex, people. Happens all the time. Get over it.
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It's really getting annoying that people worry so much about other people's genitals. Jesus didn't say a thing about transgendered individuals or gays, but that (and abortion) is all what the American Christians can talk about. It's sex, people. Happens all the time. Get over it.
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remorseless1 wrote:
It's really getting annoying that people worry so much about other people's genitals. Jesus didn't say a thing about transgendered individuals or gays, but that (and abortion) is all what the American Christians can talk about. It's sex, people. Happens all the time. Get over it.
Bloody liar.

It happened over the weekend at my house.

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bob_santafe wrote:
chrisnd wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
In situations like this why don't they cut the hair, don't say shit and just do a shit poor job of it. They will never come back and problem solved. Christ that's how I got out of doing laundry all through my marriage, by fucking it up.


But how do you screw up a buzzcut? Seriously, you have to really suck at your job to screw up a buzzcut!


Do it like I used to mow the grass (it wasn't deliberate, it's just that I couldn't see properly): leave ridges!


My neighbor leaves ridges in his lawn, and it looks like crap! I even let him use my brand-new awesome mower last week, and he still screwed it up (although maybe it was his kid that did it). Anyway, that's a great way to never have to do the lawn again.

On the other hand, my other neighbor has their mower deck set two setting below mine, and then constantly wanders into my yard because the "ability to move in a straight line" is not really part of her every day behavior - at least not when she is mowing.
 
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CapNClassic wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
It's really getting annoying that people worry so much about other people's genitals. Jesus didn't say a thing about transgendered individuals or gays, but that (and abortion) is all what the American Christians can talk about. It's sex, people. Happens all the time. Get over it.
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nope, that's Old Testament. It doesn't count as that was God v1, God v2 got rid of all those rules.

What did Jesus say?
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