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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexandria-vera-docs-teacher-had...

Another story and a few questions fo4 any willing to dive into the cesspool.

1)Upon reading the tagline, if you hadn't seen information did you assume the gender roles involved, and was your assuption correct?

2)Is there an interesting language artifact in this headline (the article) in particular. 'Student who impregnated her.' Yes it is technically accurate as the male's sperm is involved, but iust reading that line, do folks feel it indicated an active and passive participant? Does it assign a level of culpability and intent we generally, legally, don't assign to 13yr olds?

3)What do you think of the boy's family? Do you think a similar reaction would have happened if the genders were reversed?

4)Does anyone want to guess at the outcome? Will there be real jailtime, or will it be like the FL teacher who basically did enough time to have another baby by her lover and get out when he turned 18?

For my input I think she should be burried in jail(or shivved) just like any dude would be, because it's disgusting no matter which side is who.
 
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I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.
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The real shocking thing about this case, other than that she was attractive and was still sleeping with a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD WTF, is that his family was apparently totally on board with it and she was welcome at family functions.

What? WHAT? What kind of messed up family lets their 13-year-old bring their teacher/girlfriend to family functions? "Hey, this is our barely teenage son and his 20-something girlfriend, who is also his teacher. But this is tooooootally normal."

The parents should go to prison longer than the teacher. Clearly the way they raised him made him feel like this behavior was okay. Imagine if the sexes were reversed, the parents probably WOULD be arrested in that case. Straight child abuse.
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1) I assumed it was a woman and boy because those stories always make headlines in RSP.

2) Student who impregnated her? It's technically true, right? It's clickhole writing. Don't overread it.

3)What do you think of the boy's family? Fucking idiots.

Do you think a similar reaction would have happened if the genders were reversed? No, obviously.

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If you're fucked up enough to sleep with a 13 year old, you're probably fucked up enough to think his parents are ok with it.
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jeremycobert wrote:
I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.

Hell, I'm masturbating to it right now. Inappropriate, but don't you dare stigmatize my self-abuse!
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I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.

Hell, I'm masturbating to it right now. Inappropriate, but don't you dare stigmatize my self-abuse!


That pretty much takes the cake, Gary. Masturbating to images of a thirteen year old and this women. Nice.
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she2 wrote:
garygarison wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:
I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.

Hell, I'm masturbating to it right now. Inappropriate, but don't you dare stigmatize my self-abuse!


That pretty much takes the cake, Gary. Masturbating to images of a thirteen year old and this women. Nice.


I pretty much regret every time I've bothered engaging with jeremy or gary at this point.

They are either trolls or filth. Either way, they are not worth my time. Or anyone else's for that matter.
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she2 wrote:
garygarison wrote:
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I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.

Hell, I'm masturbating to it right now. Inappropriate, but don't you dare stigmatize my self-abuse!

That pretty much takes the cake, Gary. Masturbating to images of a thirteen year old and this women. Nice.

That sounds like stigmatization there. Not right, man, not right. I'm an adult and I'm enthusiastically consenting with myself.

Besides, I'm not really masturbating to images of a thirteen year old and that woman. Those images in the Feminism & Marriage thread of student protesters with tape over their mouths, though? Yowza!
 
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I pretty much regret every time I've bothered engaging with jeremy or gary at this point.

They are either trolls or filth. Either way, they are not worth my time. Or anyone else's for that matter.

You're being too harsh. I identify as "RSP fluid", which means I freely move from serious to salacious to back again. Don't invalidate me!
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garygarison wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
I pretty much regret every time I've bothered engaging with jeremy or gary at this point.

They are either trolls or filth. Either way, they are not worth my time. Or anyone else's for that matter.

You're being too harsh. I identify as "RSP fluid", which means I freely move from serious to salacious to back again. Don't invalidate me!


I'm sorry sweetheart, did I trigger you?

What happens when a troll gets triggered?
 
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Yeah the parents are slime and should be jailed for child abuse as well. If it was a 13yr old girl they sure would be.

This isn't some gotcha thread, I am actually curious how various people react, and hearing reactions with context is informative.

It's about basic equal treatment. Either we protect both genders or neither. I don't for a,moment believe there is a parity in the percentage of abusers/victims by gender, but when it happens the axe needs to fall hard.
 
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Shampoo4you wrote:
What happens when a troll gets triggered?


He starts calling people sweetheart ?
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
What happens when a troll gets triggered?


He starts calling people sweetheart ?


No, I think it's "cuck" actually, based on my recent matches of Overwatch.
 
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Shampoo4you wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:
Shampoo4you wrote:
What happens when a troll gets triggered?


He starts calling people sweetheart ?


No, I think it's "cuck" actually, based on my recent matches of Overwatch.


Ahh yes, thank you for reminding my why I don't play online FPS.
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The woman is a adult, a teacher and she knew the rules (which protect children). She should go to jail and never teach again.

Now I did read a story where the teacher's actions were understandable (though I'm not defending her). He was a 17 y.o. football player and she was a 22 y.o. substitute teacher. She was very flattered when the football player started paying attention to her. He wanted to have sex with a teacher. She gave him a blow job and realized he was snapping pictures during the act. She sent him text messages begging him to delete the pictures. He sent the pictures to his friends bragging about his conquest. She got fired (and last I heard) was being prosecuted.

No excuses for her but at least I can understand the thinking. I have no idea what is driving a 24 y.o. woman to have sex with a 13 y.o. boy.
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Drunk...

Somehow clear from the headline it was a female and an underage male.

She should go to jail. And stay there a while.
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1)Upon reading the tagline, if you hadn't seen information did you assume the gender roles involved, and was your assuption correct?[/q]Given other stories I made no assumption as to the sex of the teacher.
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2)Is there an interesting language artifact in this headline (the article) in particular. 'Student who impregnated her.' Yes it is technically accurate as the male's sperm is involved, but iust reading that line, do folks feel it indicated an active and passive participant? Does it assign a level of culpability and intent we generally, legally, don't assign to 13yr olds?
Yes, of course he impregnated her, that says nothing about his capability
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3)What do you think of the boy's family? Do you think a similar reaction would have happened if the genders were reversed?
NO, it would be rape (as it was in this case, legally (or should be)).

4)Does anyone want to guess at the outcome? Will there be real jailtime, or will it be like the FL teacher who basically did enough time to have another baby by her lover and get out when he turned 18?[/q]The latter.
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flamespeak wrote:
Both cases involve someone with a position of power over another individual using them to satisfy their own sexual desires. It is rape and should be treated as such in both cases.


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jeremycobert wrote:
flamespeak wrote:
Both cases involve someone with a position of power over another individual using them to satisfy their own sexual desires. It is rape and should be treated as such in both cases.


YOu are aware of the legal difference between someone who you have a duty of care towards and just an employee?
 
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slatersteven wrote:
jeremycobert wrote:
flamespeak wrote:
Both cases involve someone with a position of power over another individual using them to satisfy their own sexual desires. It is rape and should be treated as such in both cases.


YOu are aware of the legal difference between someone who you have a duty of care towards and just an employee?


Jeremy already said he sees nothing wrong with a 22 year old having sex with a 13 year old. It's no surprise he would equate the two.
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jeremycobert wrote:
I again contend that it is not abuse if it is something the guy will masturbate to in ten years. Inappropriate, but not abuse.


I just found a rant about pedophilia that Jeremy recently posted on youtube . The rant really starts to get going around 1:30 and the last 2 minutes or so are pure gold...


 
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1) I assumed it was a woman and boy because those stories always make headlines in RSP.

2) Student who impregnated her? It's technically true, right? It's clickhole writing. Don't overread it.

3)What do you think of the boy's family? Fucking idiots.

Do you think a similar reaction would have happened if the genders were reversed? No, obviously.


Yup. This is disgusting.

Although, to be honest, the 14-year-old boy that still lives inside my head who occasionally wonders where these attractive, 20-something teachers were when he was in eighth grade.
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slatersteven wrote:
YOu are aware of the legal difference between someone who you have a duty of care towards and just an employee?


um.. What is the duty of the highest position of power in the nation ?

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Jeremy already said he sees nothing wrong with a 22 year old female having sex with a 13 year male old. It's no surprise he would equate the two.


FTFY

I have double standard in these type case as I already pointed out.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
I have double standard in these type case as I already pointed out.


What if the 13 year old girl is really into it? Would that make it okay? I mean, girls can have sexual desires and crazy kinks too. No reason she can't masturbate to it 10 years too.
 
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