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Simon Maynard
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As much as I would love to play many of the great longer games (and I'm talking about games that take over 2 hours to play), the reality is that I usually don't have the time nor the willing participants to play them.

Naturally then, I am curious about board games that have inspired dice or card spin off games that take some of the essence of the game that inspired them but condense them down into more manageable play times.

However, from what I've read, some seem to be more successful than others. Can anyone recommend any? I don't mind if the adaptation becomes quite a different game in its own right, as long as it is good.
 
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i really enjoy Discoveries: The Journals of Lewis and Clark, sort of a dice re-imagining of Lewis & Clark that is a fair bit quicker to play.
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BANG! The Dice Game makes BANG! completely irrelevant. It's faster, whereas Bang can drag on and on. Yet it captures the same feeling perfectly.
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I like San Juan, which is based off Puerto Rico. Both are great games, but San Juan doesn't take nearly so long as its bigger brother. Since you like Race for the Galaxy, you might want to give this one a try.
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I like Nations: The Dice Game, but some people don't. It's supposed to have an expansion coming out this year to improve replayability.
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jcarmeeple wrote:
i really enjoy Discoveries: The Journals of Lewis and Clark, sort of a dice re-imagining of Lewis & Clark that is a fair bit quicker to play.


Both of these are fine games with L&C being one of my favourites. L&C is a hand management racing game with engine building that helps you get faster. In Diacoveries you build an engine by learning from American Indians to "write" about your adventures which earn you VPs.
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RA: The Dice Game...is awesome!
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Monopoly Deal Card Game distills the fun parts of the original into a game that rarely tops 20 minutes. I'd never play the traditional version, but this is enjoyable and goes over well with non-gamers due to the familiar theme.
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For reference on some of the dice games out there based on board games.
The Dice Games (with Big Brothers) Listing

Edit: added text.
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Maximuss wrote:
BANG! The Dice Game makes BANG! completely irrelevant. It's faster, whereas Bang can drag on and on. Yet it captures the same feeling perfectly.

Funnily enough I have played this; a friend of mine is a big fan, although I've never played the original 'Bang!'. Looks like I don't need to bother.
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I like San Juan, which is based off Puerto Rico. Both are great games, but San Juan doesn't take nearly so long as its bigger brother. Since you like Race for the Galaxy, you might want to give this one a try.

Yeah, I've thought about it. The problem is I've played 'Puerto Rico' a fair bit and RFtG a lot; I don't know if it's going to be different enough to be worth getting.
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For reference on some of the dice games out there
The Dice Games (with Big Brothers) Listing

Thanks for that, very informative!
 
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Fried Egg wrote:
As much as I would love to play many of the great longer games (and I'm talking about games that take over 2 hours to play), the reality is that I usually don't have the time nor the willing participants to play them.

Naturally then, I am curious about board games that have inspired dice or card spin off games that take some of the essence of the game that inspired them but condense them down into more manageable play times.


But why are you looking for condensed versions of longer games, instead of games that have been designed from the beginning to be shorter?

Also... Roll for the Galaxy

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RA: The Dice Game...is awesome!

But doesn't seem to be available. Priests of Ra (and I'm guessing Ra) take around an hour anyway.

Fried Egg wrote:
Yeah, I've thought about [San Juan]. The problem is I've played 'Puerto Rico' a fair bit and RFtG a lot; I don't know if it's going to be different enough to be worth getting.

I've not played it but my impression is that most people on BGG who like RftG would rather play RftG than San Juan. A friend has both and rates San Juan as ok.

Thanee wrote:
But why are you looking for condensed versions of longer games, instead of games that have been designed from the beginning to be shorter?


Seems like a good point to me.

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Roll Through the Ages: The Bronze Age is a favorite of mine. I found it "meh" at the beginning, but the more i played, the more i liked and it currently is in my top 10 of games.

... though i suspect the name similarity with Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization i suspect is more to them trying to brand the name than any similarity between the two games.
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Thanee wrote:
But why are you looking for condensed versions of longer games, instead of games that have been designed from the beginning to be shorter?

Fair point, and I am, but I thought this would be an interesting slant on my general quest for good quick playing games.
 
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Sadly, I'm just going to have to echo what's already been said:

Discoveries and Roll for the Galaxy

I actually hated L&C, but really enjoyed Discoveries and Roll for the Galaxy is just a bloody fantastic game.

For a unique game not listed yet: Elder Sign. It doesn't perfectly capture Eldritch Horror, that's for sure, but it is fun in its own right.

Not every dice game gets it right, however. Nations the Dice Game is awful. Actually, that's not fair, to say it's awful means I express some sort of feeling toward the game. It's just bland and boring.
 
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Not every dice game gets it right, however. Nations the Dice Game is awful. Actually, that's not fair, to say it's awful means I express some sort of feeling toward the game. It's just bland and boring.

It's funny you say that, I just tried it a few times (on www.boiteajeux.ne) and really enjoyed it. The way it combined civilisation and engine building into such a short concise game time just blew my mind. Very abstract of course but I don't mind that.

As for "Roll for the Galaxy", I just can't bring myself to get it. It looks quite good but what really ruins it for me is the apparent opportunity for cheating with impunity. Roll and allocate dice behind a screen and you've just got to hope that no one's changed any of their dice? I'm not saying that I think the people I play with are cheaters but at the end of the day you're simply not going to know if people are cheating or not when you play that game. So I think I'll stick with "Race". If someone else pulled out a copy, I'd try it though...
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I find Pandemic: The Cure almost more fun than the regular game. I still enjoy playing Pandemic. But there is a special uncertainty with the dice version!
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Was also coming in to recommend Pandemic: The Cure
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Elida wrote:
I find Pandemic: The Cure almost more fun than the regular game. I still enjoy playing Pandemic. But there is a special uncertainty with the dice version!


Agreed. And because of that, I have probably played Pandemic: The Cure a dozen times since the last time I played Pandemic.

And I actually prefer Roll for the Galaxy over Race for the Galaxy, though I own the latter and not the former.
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Dark Moon (née BSG Express) captures the same feeling in half the time and Jones Theory's out Battlestar Galactica: The Board Game in my collection.
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I quite enjoyed The Castles of Burgundy: The Card Game
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Fried Egg wrote:
broken clock wrote:
Not every dice game gets it right, however. Nations the Dice Game is awful. Actually, that's not fair, to say it's awful means I express some sort of feeling toward the game. It's just bland and boring.

It's funny you say that, I just tried it a few times (on www.boiteajeux.ne) and really enjoyed it. The way it combined civilisation and engine building into such a short concise game time just blew my mind. Very abstract of course but I don't mind that.

As for "Roll for the Galaxy", I just can't bring myself to get it. It looks quite good but what really ruins it for me is the apparent opportunity for cheating with impunity. Roll and allocate dice behind a screen and you've just got to hope that no one's changed any of their dice? I'm not saying that I think the people I play with are cheaters but at the end of the day you're simply not going to know if people are cheating or not when you play that game. So I think I'll stick with "Race". If someone else pulled out a copy, I'd try it though...


Perhaps not necessarily cheating, but outright mistakes going unnoticed. I would be willing to bet a significant percentage of games of Roll consists of mistakes in allocating dice that are not caught. I prefer Race by far. This is one of the reasons, but there are others. Probably the most significant reasons is I find the abilities on the cards and synergies between the cards to be much more interesting than the tiles in Roll.
 
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I have no desire to play Space Hulk, but Space Hulk: Death Angel – The Card Game is a great game.
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The Analog Lad wrote:
Monopoly Deal Card Game distills the fun parts of the original into a game that rarely tops 20 minutes. I'd never play the traditional version, but this is enjoyable and goes over well with non-gamers due to the familiar theme.


I second this. Monopoly Deal is perfect when playing with folks whom don't necessarily like the original (because it can certainly drag on). It's a lot of fun!
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